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I've just come away from Monseigneur XXIII and the assembled Catholic notables assembled at Lourdes (Unflooded, thanks be rendered unto Mary™ Mother™ of God™). Several major reactionary assholes shown, accompanied by a "simple believer" who smiles and says that the foundation of society is a man, a woman, and a child. And a crumpled old bag who says "We Catholics usually remain silent on public issues..."

No you fucking don't! Traditional Catholics have been shooting their mouths off for years now. And this, on public TV, did not (even for he said, she said's sake) offer an opposing or even contrasting view.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2012 at 03:42:37 PM EST
Same here. That's why Germany hasn't got same sex marriage, only a "registered partnership" with all the duties of marriage, but few rights. The Constitutional Court is altering that now slowly.
by Katrin on Sat Nov 3rd, 2012 at 03:50:13 PM EST
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"And this, on public TV, did not (even for he said, she said's sake) offer an opposing or even contrasting view. "

Ah, well, this is not always the case. On one of very few occasions when I did watch French TV news (definitely in single figures in a whole year), there was something about marriage and adoptiion for gays, and they said there were contrasting views.
I was about to be annoyed. But then the "for" was represented by a sociologist, who cited lots of studies and how it went perfectly well in other countries, the "against" by a priest. Who came up with only bigoted prejudice and citing the bible. Wearing his full attire. In the most secular country in the world.

I thought it was a very nice way of hinting which of the two positions was the more sensible one ;-)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 07:34:20 AM EST
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