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I can tell you from my personal experience that there are periods in every marriage when one of the spouses or even both feel unhappy.It is life.But in most cases things can change and improve if spouses do not give up. One can't expect to be constantly happy in anything

Please don't 'debate' strawmen and don't patronise: no one on this board is an inexperienced and blind 14-year-old who'd have that illusion about relationships. If we disagree, then on the frequency of cases when the recipe of not giving up won't improve affairs, and when it is even relevant.

I said there are marriages where there is violence , drug and alcohol abuse , where children are safer if people divorce. But they are not that many , I assume

First, why do you assume so? Second, don't just think of physical abuse: psychological abuse can be more frequent and just as bad if not worse. Third, there are the cases when one partner has "given up", and there is nothing to be saved by the other's "not giving up". Fourth, there are the cases when one partner still wants to continue but won't cooperate in seeking any improvement (typically, when s/he wants to dominate).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 01:29:55 PM EST
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