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seek advantage through lies

i propose no more lies, products only endorsed by real users, no more actors spouting transparent drivel.

(added to your proposal.)

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Feb 13th, 2012 at 09:35:32 AM EST
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You make the same mistake as many ad agencies: there are no compartmentalized target groups. Actors are consumers/real users too.

In Finland there is a consumer ombusdman organization that frequently intervenes on unsupportable advertising claims.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Feb 13th, 2012 at 11:00:30 AM EST
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Real consumers don't get paid to consume.

Most celebs get the stuff they promote for free.

And there certainly are compartmentalised target groups. They may have fuzzy edges, but no one is going to have much success selling Hello Kitty toys to corporate vice presidents, or expensive mustard to pre-teen girls.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 07:35:02 AM EST
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I'm sure many corporate VPs with young daughters have purchased Hello Kitty toys - persuaded indirectly. And if the pretty one in a boy band publicly professed to liking expensive mustard sales would soar.

Of course celebs get it free, but these days they also have to sign contracts that exclude controllable competitor visibility whenever in public.

Real consumers are rewarded, though not paid a fee.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 10:29:12 AM EST
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For every product or brand there's a group of primary consumers, and multiple groups of secondary consumers with ever-decreasing personal interest and/or leverage on primary consumers.

It's nonsensical to suggest these groups can be equal or equivalent.

And it's not unusual for misguided celebs to damage their own brands through unfortunate endorsement deals, and for brands to have their influence damaged after picking the wrong celeb to endorse.

Advertising is powerful, but it's not infinitely plastic. Beyond a certain narrative stress point the power to persuade breaks down.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 05:06:19 PM EST
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