Greece: they must not pass | 453 comments (453 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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if they did so, more power to them.

One of the many sins of Greek society is its massive military overspending. Look it up - military spending to GDP ratio of different countries.

by cris0 on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 05:09:30 PM EST
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Re: Greece: they must not pass (4.00 / 3)

No small thanks to Germany. First the German companies bribed corrupt Greeks to approve useless submarines and tanks (which didn't even work), and then Germany blackmailed Greece by making the many billion euro purchase of new subs a prerequisite of the bailout. Talk about German hyocrisy.

Then Germany freaked out when France announced it was selling jetfighters to Greece at a cut-rate cost (thereby muscling out German companies trying to earn a profit) with German money!!! Hilarious!

by Upstate NY on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 05:38:08 PM EST
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and then Germany blackmailed Greece by making the many billion euro purchase of new subs a prerequisite of the bailout.

A brazen lie.

by IM on Sat Feb 18th, 2012 at 10:28:34 AM EST
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No, that is a matter of public record.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Feb 18th, 2012 at 10:49:42 AM EST
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Bit of cours ethere is nothign, absolutely nothing about any defense contracts being part of the bail-out in there.

So it is a brazen lie.

That:

>The second boat, Pipinos, was officially launched in February 2007 and is at present going through Greek harbour acceptance trials in Piraeus.

On September 21, 2009 TKMS announced that the contract with the Greek Navy for all four submarines had been cancelled due to country's arrears of more than 520 million Euros. TKMS is now seeking arbitration to resolve the matter.[21][22]

On October 27, 2009 the Greek Ministry of Defence officially confirmed that they intend accepting the three boats built in Greece. The first-of-class boat built in Kiel will not be accepted, and will be offered for sale. Proceeds from the sale will be used to pay the debt to TKMS>

also shows that the squabbling about the quality of the submarines is rather pre crisis. And that th reamining orders are about submarines built in Greece.

by IM on Sun Feb 19th, 2012 at 04:32:14 PM EST
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hey hey (4.00 / 2)

The tutelary powers have apparently decided that the Greek government doesn't have the prerogative to decide on their own military budget. From EuroIntelligence :

Migeru:

the euro working group rejects Greece's proposal to make up for €325m shortfall by defense spending cuts and ask for pension cuts instead

hmmm doesn't fit the frame very well, Cris...

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 06:16:43 AM EST
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The really oddball thing is that onlooker-analysts predicted this.

It's as though they are trying to ask the question: "How craven can we be?"

by Upstate NY on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 09:37:30 AM EST
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