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You're not getting away from the fact that the politicians who fucked Greece up before the crisis were elected by the Greek people.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Thu Feb 16th, 2012 at 08:31:55 PM EST
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Yes, but this is systemic and it cuts both ways, not only Greek politicians fucked up public finances, but politicians in the rest of the EU accepted Greece in the EZ knowing full well it didn't meet the standards, and the German and French governments had no problem exacerbating the situation via arms sales. And more importantly lenders lent at rates they shouldn't have lent at...

But this is neither here nor there: this type of democracy we supposedly have is in fact a mediated system in which the "viable" choices are selected for the people by a series of checks and mechanisms, in which cultural hegemony plays a big role. Not only Greece though. What you say is the same type of fallacy that Al Qaida has employed in the not so distant past: Americans elected Bush, Bush kills Arabs, Arabs have a right to kill all Americans as complicit in Bush's election in a free and fair (well...) way. It doesn't work that way.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2012 at 09:26:28 PM EST
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And the politicians who now create these bank bailouts for european tax payers (and turn national budjets into junk funds) are also elected by these countries.

What we after all should not forget is that neoliberalism is a religious movement. The poor are "sinners." They must be punished, when the elites f** up.

by kjr63 on Fri Feb 17th, 2012 at 09:05:17 AM EST
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I don't think that's neoliberalism, rather it's Calvinism/protestant work ethic kinda thingie.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Fri Feb 17th, 2012 at 12:42:56 PM EST
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I don't think so. Neoliberals could care less about work. These are more like pagan rituals.
by kjr63 on Fri Feb 17th, 2012 at 01:07:53 PM EST
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