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Oh c'mon. Putin really won and just live with it. Even here on Australian TV they said that results are in line with polls of some serious INDEPENDENT agencies. That's it! Majority of the Russians wants him. Irregularities. Do not get me started about western election irregularities...starting with USA...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 at 02:11:13 AM EST
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When you get to disqualify any candidate who might cause you problems, you can't claim a democratic mandate.

He might well have won a democratic election. We'll see next time.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 at 06:03:48 AM EST
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I actually know few people (foreigners not Russians) that live in Russia at the moment by THEIR OWN WILL. They went to Russia to work and previously lived and are citizens of Australia or Canada. They are staying there for years now so there must be a reason, good reason for it. Russia after collapse of USSR luckily is going better and better with Putin.
Voice of Russia (Serbian language)
http://serbian.ruvr.ru/2012_03_05/67543963/
said that in Chechnya 99.73% voted for Putin.
Interestingly I can't find this news in English version :(
Ten again this is how Grozny was destroyed by Russians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaFrCy9HTOM

And this is how it looks today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C1lULBGCO0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78P6rsspmCs&fea ture=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbitWAwm0Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIxNJpct8U4 &feature=related

They call it "Dubai on Kavkaz", so if this is truth no wonder they voted for him...
Well I take everything with a grain of salt nowadays...where ever it comes from west or east...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein

by vbo on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 at 08:12:51 AM EST
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Is anything you write related at all to democracy?

I know people who have worked in all sorts of undemocratic countries. If the money's OK, that's a pretty good reason for being there. And expatriates are rarely on the receiving end of local repression.

And you must surely be smiling when you write that in Chechnya 99.73% voted for Putin... after all, why would anyone in Chechnya have anything against good old Vladimir?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 at 08:47:01 AM EST
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Chechnya has always been loyal:
THE EXILE - Who Killed The OSCE? - By Alexander Zaitchik and Mark Ames - Feature Story
Evidence of fraud, such as entire towns in Chechnya voting overwhelmingly for Yeltsin, caused Meadowcroft to liken the 1996 election to those held in African dictatorships. "In Chechnya they'd been bombed out of existence, and there they were all supposedly voting for Yeltsin. It's like what happens in Cameroon," he said.

Though of course:
THE EXILE - Who Killed The OSCE? - By Alexander Zaitchik and Mark Ames - Feature Story

It's not that the West won't be right when it condemns this weekend's vote. In OSCE jargon, the Duma elections will be "fundamentally flawed." They will "fall far short" of western standards, if not expectations. It's not a secret that the Russian state-run media are grotesquely pro-Putin. Or that the election laws have been changed to shut out opposition parties. Or that, as in previous elections, there will likely be some old-fashioned ballot stuffing in the provinces.

That was in 2007, still true.

But who do you mean was disqualified that could have unseated Putin? Far as I can see, the only opposition party with nationwide organisation is - and has always been - the communist party.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 at 09:07:39 AM EST
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Yeah you are right about Chechnya in the past and that's why I said I am not so trustful about the news.
Yes you are also right about opposition and communists...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 at 09:28:20 AM EST
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Yeah right...I knew that you will not get my point right.
To be perfectly honest after living for more than 17 years in democracy (and here in Australia situation is much better then in many other western countries where politicians simply and plainly buy their place in power in an open way) I lost my trust that people are capable to really have democracy...anywhere...let alone in Russia where we all know what happened in last century.
Opposition in Russia have all rights in my view to protest and ask for real democracy. People have right to protest anywhere...We recently saw protests against Wall street that ended we all know how in USA and elsewhere in democracies. But what I hate is when western world is interfering in other people's business for the simple reason of interest of their elite. Now we see how "democracy" looks like in Iraq:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7OuGmXE4ww
And we can only imagine Libya...no need to imagine anything about Afghanistan...
Just stay away and look in your own " yard" as we Serbs like to say....
Western lessons about democracy are so deadly...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 at 09:22:39 AM EST
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