Daniel Cohn-Bendit: Yesterday's man? | 134 comments (130 topical, 4 editorial, 0 hidden)

Can you tell me how many native Occitan (none / 0)

speakers under the age of 65 there are in France today?

If you can, and it is more than a rounding error of the percentage of people in Languedoc-Roussillon, PACA, Rhône-Alpes, Auvergne and Aquitaine combines population, then I will consider your criticism legitimate.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:41:21 PM EST
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Re: Can you tell me how many native Occitan (none / 0)

You find it easier to concede the point for immigrants' languages than for indigenous ones, don't you? Funny.

by Katrin on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:51:14 PM EST
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Yes, I do. Why? Because there are, for instance, (none / 0)

more native eight-year-old Kabyle, Portuguese or Chinese speakers in my neighbourhood than there are native eight year old Occitan speakers in the whole of France.

We are talking about the present and future, and not the past. I apologise to all if by insisting on talking about the challenges being confronted by real working people rather than some set of people who existed generations ago this somehow makes me a "reactionary". I just don't see it.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 05:02:11 PM EST
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Re: Yes, I do. Why? Because there are, (none / 0)

Well, and in other neighbourhoods there are more speakers of breton or corsican or whatever. And they are real working people too. Probably some immigrants' children speaking Arabic and Occitan and French and in this order.

by Katrin on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 05:28:01 PM EST
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No, there are not. (none / 0)

There are no multitudes of Occitan or Breton speaking youths anywhere in France.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 06:31:59 PM EST
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Re: No, there are not. (4.00 / 2)

Crowd cross-section at Front de Gauche rally in Toulouse last Thursday 5 April:

Crowd cross-section at the Occitan rally in Toulouse the previous Saturday, 31 March:

While the Front de Gauche crowd looks on balance younger, there is a fair mix of generations in the Occitan crowd. Making out that there are nothing but a few very old people speaking Occitan is simply untrue.

Mélenchon drew a bigger crowd, but the Occitan crowd was all the same 20,000 according to the police, 30,000 according to the organisers.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 11th, 2012 at 02:29:37 AM EST
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