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It's all going to depend on the slopes of the various curves, right?

  • How fast can sustainable sources be developed?
  • At what cost?
  • Compared to easy coal.
  • And natural gas, and oil.
  • And nuclear.

My bet is that even as the catastrophic results of climate change--that we are just now starting to see obvious evidence of--cause sweeping political change, there is so much hysteresis in the technical underpinnings of the energy industry that we are in for at least another decade or two of increasing dependence on coal and nuclear energy. How do you run your A/C if the power's out?

It was 48 C (118 F) in Kansas yesterday. Huge storm on U.S. east cost will have power out for weeks. Fires all over the west. All-time high temperature records broken in June instead of August...

More nukes is still probably, I think...

by asdf on Sun Jul 1st, 2012 at 11:27:01 AM EST
Bet there are not a few residents of the D.C. area who would really like to have residential solar just now. But gasoline generators big enough to run the AC are less than $1,000, so the total cost to run such a generator for a week every other year is not too bad. My 7500 VA unit used about 15 gallons a day during the '09 ice storm and hasn't been needed since. The trick is to have enough gasoline around to run for a few days. A couple of vehicles with full tanks helps if you have a siphon. Getting a mouthful of gasoline is a younger man's game, I hope.

Natural gas powered whole house generators are an even better technical option. 10KW for about $3 to 4,000. Natural gas is usually one of the last utilities to go down in a disaster, (other than a major earthquake), as the distribution infrastructure is burred.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jul 1st, 2012 at 11:41:32 AM EST
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Exactly. When it gets hot, you want a solution now, not 20 years from now. If it takes coal or gas to generate the electricity to run the A/C needed because of the CO2 from the coal and gas, well, that's what you want.
by asdf on Sun Jul 1st, 2012 at 02:04:52 PM EST
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Don't know if they still exist, but I bet that there are similar devices out there that do not depend on electricity.

I'd stick with the gasoline models, but it does depend on topping up your vehicle(s), rather than waiting for the low-fuel message to appear.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (paulgspencer@gmail.com) on Mon Jul 2nd, 2012 at 11:38:47 AM EST
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Most RVs have refrigerators that run on propane, mains power or 12 VDC. That can be a help for essential items.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Jul 2nd, 2012 at 12:29:50 PM EST
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