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It should be noted that the re-prioritisation of the electrification of the Midland mainline to Sheffield may well be seen as a bone thrown to Nick Clegg, who represents constituency in Sheffield

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 08:57:45 AM EST
National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers (RMT): Electric trains to cut UK travel times

Millions of passengers on some of Britain's busiest rail routes will on Thursday be offered the prospect of faster, more reliable and cleaner journeys when the government unveils plans for major electrification for the first time since rail privatisation.

Routes between London and Swansea will be the first to be electrified since 1991. The main Liverpool to Manchester route, the world's first inter-city railway, will also be converted.

For a link to a diagram.

the Sheffield and Cardiff lines are the only two main lines from London still to be electrified, and you would think that those two lines are the logical ones to do next.

As for the change from ending electrification in Wales at Swansea from ending it to cardif, you have to ask what madman decided to stop it in Cardiff originally. The main line actually terminates at Swansea, with trains heading further then reversing out to head further into the wilds. Swansea is the logical place to finish, with a possible extension all the way to the ferry port and thence to Ireland.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 10:51:18 AM EST
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It would actually make more sense to build a new station on the main through line and close the current station entirely. A look at google maps suggests there's plenty of space in which to do this.

As much of Swansea is now north of the line as south and so would help re-balance traffic flows away from the crowded sea front "centre".


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 11:33:31 AM EST
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speaking as an ex sort of local, themain people who would enjoy that would be the Taxi drivers. Plus although you have a lot of apparentlywide open spaces, Swansea is relatively lumpy, and the number of places you can put a station are actually quite limited.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 12:19:29 PM EST
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Well, anything can be done if the will is there. Question is; do they believe in the redemptive power of electrification to raise Swansea away from being a dead end dump ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 01:24:28 PM EST
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oh there are dead end dumps way beyond Swansea

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 02:42:04 PM EST
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Fer sure, but for such a sizable town, it sure is dead

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 03:46:12 PM EST
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thats because all the wildness is off in the hills beyond :)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 07:44:22 PM EST
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you have to ask what madman decided to stop it in Cardiff originally

The original Network Rail plan had the entire London-Swansea section as priority project. Adonis's version broke the project into two phases, London-Bristol and Bristol-Swansea. The Coalition government modification was to extend the first phase to Cardiff and forget about a second phase. I guess some idiot thought that they can pretend to do more than the previous government on the cheap, and Swansea can then be reached with hybrid trains. Now they are effectively restoring a two-phase implementation, because the works for the London-Cardiff section were contracted already.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 02:01:09 PM EST
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Definitely a bone for Clegg, don't know if it will save him when the election comes, but despite all the politicking it's a good thing for the country to have a better line North from London to Sheffield.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 12:12:22 PM EST
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If it is a bone to Clegg, then it is a rather large bone: the entire 'electric spine' project would create a freight corridor starting in Southampton and bypassing London via Oxford, about as long as the Midland Main Line project itself.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 01:55:03 PM EST
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they could electrify Harwich and Felixstowe to Peterborough while they're at it

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 03:45:32 PM EST
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like any cross country lines are going to be improved. If London or Manchester isn't on one end, it's lost

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 22nd, 2012 at 07:45:14 PM EST
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