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From what I've read of Central Asian history, it seems like white people used to live on the steppes, until the Chinese kicked their asses and displaced them further West.  I really don't see why that story is bad for Chinese national pride.
by Zwackus on Fri Aug 31st, 2012 at 06:39:24 AM EST
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You don't get Chinese nationalism. China isn't/wasn't a colonialist empire, conquests weren't conquests: all parts of China were always Chinese, it's just that some parts were brought back under the fold of central government. Think of Tibet for example.

Meanwhile, disregarding his insistence on tracking back every tribe to a Chinese root, the idea I got away from reading this guy's history was that the steppes were the ultimate melting pot: all the tribal kingdoms/empires were short-lived and then the constituent tribe broke up upon wandering, clans joined other tribes, women were taken, alliances were made regularly. (The ultimate end of this was when Ghenghis Khan merged several tribes into the "Mongols".) It also convinced me that the direct connection between the Mongols raiding the Roman Empire in the 4th century CE and the Xingnu Empire battling Han Dynasty China since the 2nd century BC was likely via a few clans at best.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Aug 31st, 2012 at 07:07:09 AM EST
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