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So give them a restraining order to not come within x metres of a religious building.

But 2 years in jail to (paraphrasing the judge) reeducate them out of their individualism, stubbornness and penchant for bright, provocative clothing?

For reeducation and reparation, as far as community service goes, and given that they caused no physical damage whatsoever unlike the Femen leader with her chainsaw, there's very little they could be sensibly required to do.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 1st, 2012 at 10:32:05 AM EST
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I have REPEATEDLY said that I don't support the particulars of this sentence, especially the extent of the penalty. I am saying that these women are guilty of behaviour that must be criminalised. It would be perfectly okay to fine them, give them a suspended sentence or a restraining order or whatever.
by Katrin on Sat Sep 1st, 2012 at 10:52:51 AM EST
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I am saying that these women are guilty of behaviour that must be criminalised.

Are we talking about antisocial behaviour generally, or specifically incitation to religious hatred? Just to know whether we actually agree or not.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 1st, 2012 at 11:00:17 AM EST
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"antisocial behaviour" is a much better description than "incitation to religious hatred", so I think we largely agree.
by Katrin on Sat Sep 1st, 2012 at 11:12:29 AM EST
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Yeah...and there are fines too to be applied.
I am not arguing here that punishment is not draconian. I do not think it will stand and in the end it will go against Putin, judge and church because they already became "martyrs". So it was stupid on Putin/State side but they are yet to learn about this stuff. Milosevic learned after few attempts to even bit opposition leaders in custody. Not to mention that same opposition leader was later in his government...Grr...That made me feel stupid because I was the one protesting against cordon of police for his right not to be bitten as political opponent. We all learn...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 12:41:15 AM EST
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