Religion, Atheism, Moral, Politic, PR and all that mess | 533 comments (533 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: You can't prove your idiotic point (none / 0)

You have now presented a case where the Catholic Church announced they would lodge a complaint, but apparently didn't

Um, no. They lodged a complaint. But I'm not going to dig through a set of (Italian!) court proceedings to figure out what happened to the case. Because the mere fact that they lodged a frivolous complaint in the first place, and the press placed its lips on their assholes instead of firmly denouncing them for abusing the court system, is itself perfectly sufficient to prove that special rules for religious people are unjust and have to go.

Either because they are not invoked, and therefore superfluous. Or because they are invoked, and therefore discriminatory.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 04:46:13 AM EST
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Pathetic (none / 0)

The case wasn't about political speech anyway, and there is no conviction. Was there even a charge? Doubtful.

by Katrin on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 04:56:57 AM EST
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Re: Pathetic (none / 1)

The BBC reported that charges were brought. I don't read Italian, so I don't know whether there was a conviction, or it was settled out of court (which is more probable, granted, because both litigants were transnational corporations, and transnational corporations tend to settle out of court).

Actually, I'd love to see what would happen if someone used that photo to satirize the Pope's homobigotry and sectarianism.

But I guess we never will, since, you know, there's a bunch of trigger-happy lawyers ready to throw obviously frivolous lawsuits at it.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 05:07:20 AM EST
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Re: Pathetic (none / 0)

Don't distract. You did not prove your claim. There is not a single case of political speech against the Pope being punished.

by Katrin on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 05:27:05 AM EST
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Re: Pathetic (none / 0)

Being forced to withdraw a picture is legal coercion. The fact that they probably caved and pulled it before the case went to court does not in any way, shape or form diminish the problem.

Rather the reverse, I would say, when the mere threat of invoking anti-blasphemy laws against legitimate mockery of the Pope's homobigotry can get the picture in question pulled.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 05:41:03 AM EST
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Re: Pathetic (none / 0)

But it wasn't about blasphemy laws at all. Are you unable to grasp that simple fact?

by Katrin on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 06:21:19 AM EST
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It was mocking the Pope; it was sued away (n/t) (none / 0)

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 2nd, 2012 at 06:27:11 AM EST
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