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Let's get this out of the way
First of all let us talk about PR because all this started with them. What exactly some of you like about them and their actions? And what exactly few of us dislike about them and their actions?
I don't like their punk rock, I don't like their leotards and I don't like their previous public sex "performance art". I don't like the disproportionate sentences they were handed down, nor the ridiculous justifications in the judge's statement. I like the No Pasaran! T-shirt.

They're obnoxious. They claim they are engaging in political protest. I don't particularly like obnoxious actions, especially when they are directed at random bystanders (a bunch of babushkas in a church) rather than authority figures (Putin and the Patriarch of Russia). But that doesn't mean I think they deserve 2 years in jail, nor do I believe wearing leotards is a personality disorder that can only be straightened out wit jail time, nor do I believe jail is good therapy for personality disorders.

Their behaviour could be described as antisocial, however as far as antisocial behaviour goes it's pretty harmless (they didn't engage in vandalism, they didn't beat anyone up, heck, apparently they didn't even damage their eardrums because the music was dubbed into the video in post production).

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:53:17 PM EST
Well, that was good.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Thu Aug 30th, 2012 at 01:20:13 PM EST
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I would add just one thing: commandeering the place of others should be punished. But not that hard.
by IM on Fri Aug 31st, 2012 at 06:18:08 AM EST
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I was accosted in the street the other day by a handful of obnoxious drunks (or soon-to-be-drunks, who can tell).
At the time I very much wanted to punch someone in the face. Now? Have calmed down, pretty much.

Adolescents occasionally need to be told to shut up, or to be temporarily restrained for the safety of themselves and others.

I suggest community service.

by Number 6 on Fri Aug 31st, 2012 at 08:09:04 AM EST
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