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how you can accurately translate an adjective by a noun

I think you should think of the ending -aya as -ly in English (which also turns a noun into an adjective).

So Gospodnaya = Godly = God's (in the sense of "of or pertaining to").

But seriously, what does this have to do with anything?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2012 at 08:42:49 AM EST
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The question is that both vbo and Sargon focused on this line as the part that most insulted religious sentiment.

It seems obvious to me that there is a world of difference between "God's shit" (which can be construed as an insult to God, and therefore to all believers) and "Godly bullshit", which, in context, is an insult against the Patriarch.

And also... vbo invited a discussion of the phrase.

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by eurogreen on Mon Sep 3rd, 2012 at 10:00:51 AM EST
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Except that Gospodnaya ("Godly") is also in the name of the "Lord's Prayer".

So, syntactically it may mean "godly bulshit". Semantically, it recalls "the Lord's shit". [Which is part of the reason why you can accurately translate an adjective by a noun - grammar doesn't follow function, especially across languages]

And sinc neither of us are native Slavic speakers or Orthodox faithful... we might want to defer to their judgement.

Also, considering English routinely "verbs nouns" and "nouns verbs", why are you, an English speaker, so shocked that adjectives can be translated as nouns and conversely, in particular semantic/syntactic contexts? And haven't you heard of apposition? (The use of a noun in an adjective function - as in the use of the noun adjective in an adjective function in the expression an adjective function as opposed to an adjectival function or an adjective's function)

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2012 at 10:43:26 AM EST
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