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That definitely has a chilling effect. Of course it doesn't succeed in censoring the content, but it succeeds in harassing the author.
But since, as a Lutheran, you're an iconoclast, you don't care. While you do care about the Danish cartoon controversy.
How confusing. If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
Mind, I do not deny that there are laws that ought to be abolished: all blasphemy laws for instance. Or laws forcing religion on all schoolchildren.
For that matter, what was the cartoon jihad about if not blasphemy?
- Jake Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.
A campaign to incite hatred against immigrants and Muslims. By the way, it was not against any law. A pity. Humiliating Muslims is legal. You are aware that your argument of protection for a minority applies here, aren't you? Astonishing that you support this despicable campaign.
However, in this particular case it must be weighted against the equally legitimate argument that people were attempting to enforce a blanket ban on pictorial depiction of a historical figure. Such a blanket ban must be opposed, because it is far too wide reaching to legitimately claim to be concerned with hate speech.
I find the latter argument more persuasive. The mullahs were not demanding legitimate protection from hate speech. They were demanding the intrusion of an extremist caricature of Islam into general society.
The fact that legitimate and proper backlash against the meritless intrusion of backwards religious dogmatism into secular society creates an opportunity for racist hate speech when the meritless intrusion is committed by an oppressed minority is regrettable, but probably not avoidable. Unless you want to give oppressed minorities a blank check to engage in any or all antidemocratic behavior simply because they are an oppressed minority. Which is a bridge I am not quite prepared to cross.
In any event, the Russian Orthodox Church obviously cannot claim the need for any such protection. Rather, it is Pussy Riot which can clearly claim the need for protection from the Russian Orthodox Church.
Now we can discuss clitoris ablation for another 400 comments. If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
I have actually quoted the applicable law in the subthread.
I can't fathom what this video does with the feeling of Catholics
It mocks the Descent from the Cross, the Stigmata, the Holy Sepulchre and the Resurrection. Apart from proposing actually eating a Christ. If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
Apart from proposing actually eating a Christ.
they got anticipated on that one... 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
Sigh. I'll try and find it in this jungle.
Er, what is wrong with that?
So it all appears to come down to whether you share the personal outrage. If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
Hint: the Krahe case discussion starts in its own top-level comment, joking about taking a poll. If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
I don't remember whether the parish sued over this gross mistreatment of their holy cracker. But several parishioners did threaten to put the kid in a hospital.
FIFY.
Examples of actions that hurt religious feelings, and therefore would be criminal under the standard you propose, are germane to the discussion.
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