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What are we going to eat? </distraught>
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 08:20:06 AM EST
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Hey, I don't care one way or the other on whether squirrels are to people's tastes, but this seems to be just the sort of silliness Brussels is known for.

Silly laws for the plebes, silly economic policy for all.

Spoken as one who has shot more than a few in his youth, with a pellet gun.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 08:22:31 AM EST
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It used to be a way to introduce youth to hunting. They could hang out in the forest without adult supervision, and fun was had by all. Now they've got to wait until age 15 when you are allowed full-power rifles.

Sad. And squirrel furs are very nice. Even if they haven't been economically relevant since the the industrial revolution came along, they used to be one of the big Swedish exports 500 years ago. And money isn't everything.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 08:29:25 AM EST
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Nah. Brussels didn't do it.

The red squirrel (sciurus vulgaris) is a protected species because the grey squirrel (sciurus carolinensis) drives it out and destroys it in entire regions. The grey squirrel is not protected.

The EU (or EEC) did not decree this protection, it was the Council of Europe's Berne Convention in 1979 (Annex III).

Having seen as a kid the red squirrel wiped out and replaced by the grey in the English countryside, I don't see anything silly about it.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 08:58:19 AM EST
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Grey squirrel is not pushing out red squirrel from Sweden, probably because of the different ecosystem over here. Still, both red and grey squirrels are illegal to hunt over here, as a result of Brussels diktats.

Seems I was wrong on the timing though. The ban went into force some time in the 2000's.

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Ok, I can't find any references to EU meddling (damn, I was sure about this!). It seems our domestic idiots at the Nature Protection Agency thought that as the furs weren't economically valuable and that people don't eat the squirrels very often, the hunting was made illegal. Outrageous, but this is the situation all Swedish hunters suffer under: totally out of touch politically untouchable bureaucrats inventing and implementing very curious rules, straight out of the blue.

Maybe the EU still had something to do with, just that I can't find any sources. I'll have to check out my hunting rule books to make sure.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 09:51:06 AM EST
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Starvid:
Brussels diktats... The ban went into force some time in the 2000's.

I've given you chapter and verse on it. Sweden signed the Berne Convention in 1979 and applied it in 1983. It has nothing to do with Brussels.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 09:55:19 AM EST
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I think you might be right. But it was legal to hunt squirrel (both kinds) up until the early 2000's.

I might have mixed it up with raven hunting which was banned, due to I believe EU pressure. Which is how it aquired the name EU-kråka (EU-crow).

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 09:57:36 AM EST
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Looks like you can get dispensation for individual squirrels that cause trouble.

Otherwise legal December - January or September - February depending where in the country you are.

(Man, the internet is a cornucopia of conflicting information! Yes, I just noticed.)


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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 10:05:30 AM EST
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Do you have to apply for a "cease and desist" injunction first?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 10:18:56 AM EST
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Possibly ... :)

In both of the cases I found, the squirrel disappeared between applying for the permit and getting the shotgun out. Maybe they have an inside connection in the postal system.


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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 10:26:45 AM EST
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