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Vienna to use public defibrillators to fight heart attacks - FRANCE 24

Vienna will introduce 60 public defibrillators around the city over the coming months, in a bid to save lives by promoting quicker first aid in the event of a heart attack, authorities said Thursday.

Over 10,000 people die every year in Austria following cardiac arrest.

"There's only one mistake you can make, that's to do nothing," Harry Kopietz, head of the regional parliament and president of the association Puls, which is backing the project, told journalists.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2012 at 04:31:04 PM EST
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You can already find these in some parts of the UK.

Do people know what to do with them? I imagine everyone has seen the TV shows, but is that really how they're supposed to be used?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 07:15:35 AM EST
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Procedure for the new "public" ones tend to be
  • attach pads to chestal area
  • switch on machine
  • sit back and wait

The monitoring is built in and the machine makes the decision whether to "apply current" or not.

Having the public use the ER/crash cart version wihtout training would probably ... I don't know ... hilarity ensues, if you're lucky.


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by Number 6 on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 07:35:49 AM EST
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In the UK at least, they are supplied to various public places (including shopping centres etc.) by the NHS along with training for a minimum of 3 staff members. The newer ones are basically self-running via an algorithm, you just put the sticky bits on the electrodes and put them in the right place and push the button.

(The training is mostly about putting the electrodes in the right place. And not touching it while in action.)

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 07:38:41 AM EST
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Not likely to end well...
by asdf on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 12:59:33 PM EST
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We've had those for years in Denmark. If they had been a total catastrophe, they would presumably have been removed by now.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 02:57:25 PM EST
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Denmark is civilized, though.

I can't wait until they put them in my town. There are all sorts of fun things you can do with the innards.

by asdf on Fri Sep 28th, 2012 at 05:52:24 PM EST
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I'm pretty sure they will squawk some sort of distress code if you remove them, though. That would make sense, since you're only supposed to remove them when somebody is twitching on the ground.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 01:27:04 AM EST
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The police response time here would allow a leisurely walk home with the goods with no danger of apprehension...
by asdf on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 03:35:03 PM EST
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