Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
Display:
Iran may an example of the phenomenom outside Western world. The number of people participating prayers has dropped during Islamic republic. Possibly state church creates anti-religious opposition on one hand and delegation of faith to the responsibility of the state on the other hand.
by Jute on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 04:49:13 AM EST
I tend to take the view that Persia and Islam are both part of the Mesopotamian cultural matrix which includes the "West", on the argument that seen from the Indian Subcontinent or from the Far East, the Iranians and the Americans are closer than either of them is to India or China.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 04:54:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Edward Said's  seminal book Orientalism refers to Arabic and Persian places for the most part as non-Western, so most social thinkers today follow his categorization and end the "West" at the Bosporus, or at most Kurdistan. Damascus is not considered part of the West, for example.
by santiago on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 10:05:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Right, but Christianity and (to a lesser extent) Judaism are considered western again.
by Katrin on Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 01:33:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
More likely, advancing education and relative prosperity accompanies declining religious observance, independently of whether religion is state-sponsored or not. [numbers needed!]

Of course, heavy-handed state sponsorship may increase insincere observance as a social/political obligation, but ultimately that can only hollow out the religious aspect, just as compulsory Party membership in a one-party state kills political belief.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 05:42:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Iran is going backwards on education: Male-order education: Iran bars women from 77 university courses (RT.com, 21 August, 2012)

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 06:58:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, but the article underlines the progress made. This is a rearguard action by the reactionaries who are starting to realise that once you have mass education for women, it's hard to keep a completely male-dominated power structure.

As it's written up, it seems to be shaping as a civil rights issue, rather than a religious question, which is very encouraging.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 07:45:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Display:

Top Diaries

VDL: You Will Be Inoculated!

by Oui - Jun 11
2 comments

The Sciences of the Artificial

by Cat - May 30
19 comments

City Agriculture - May 23, 2024

by gmoke - May 23
3 comments

Occasional Series