Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
mostly repetitive of course, but mostly beside the issue, which is : what Charlie Hebdo published, the socio-political context into which they published it, and why they published it.

I need time to frame this correctly (as I have said, I don't like ormondotvos's framing), but the important issues, to my mind, are specifically French on the one hand, and pan-islamic on the other. It is no surprise that the voices calling for death and destruction, legal measures, or street demonstrations against Charlie Hebdo are the very same politico-religious movements which are the most reactionary forces in, for example, Tunisia, Egypt and Libya. Their aims are antithetical to ours. To my mind, CH are fighting the good fight with respect to "self-segregation" which is a real issue in certain sections of the French underclass. It's about constructing alternative narratives, and opening doors to enable vulnerable young people to resist the easy out which is identity politics.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 04:22:28 AM EST
How does the publication of these cartoons help the fight against self-segregation" in certain sections of the French underclass? And how does it work against externally imposed segregation of wider sections of French society? What alternative narratives do you speak about? All I see is posturing from someone in the upper middle class, with a false sense of defiance (real defiance would be to face blasphemy laws in Pakistan for example), and in denial of the predictalbe use of this empty act by xenophobes (like the diarist).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 5th, 2013 at 05:35:35 PM EST
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To your point, it's one world on the internet, and CH is the shining example of busting the imam's chops, or the Communist Party's chops, or the military-prison-industrial complex's chops.

CH is the bad example, the extreme leader for personal freedom.

And I wish they published in English. Although we do have the Onion, and Andy Borowitz, and driftglass and Charlie Pierce.

Align culture with our nature. Ot else!

by ormondotvos (ormond.otvosnospamgmialcon) on Sat Jan 12th, 2013 at 10:32:29 PM EST
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