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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 17th, 2013 at 01:36:21 PM EST
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The real fun starts when people in Italy and Spain realise this means that they are due for a haircut sometime soon and start trying to move all their money into Swiss and German banks...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Mar 17th, 2013 at 02:46:53 PM EST
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the poor and middle class (wage earners) need local bank accounts and don't have a lot of savings (or net positive cash) anyway. It's the upper middle class and the rich who have liquid assets in banks to worry about.

This could have interesting political repercussions...

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 17th, 2013 at 02:56:04 PM EST
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The guillotine might be pulled out of storage...

[according to Wiki, it has been used in Germany too...]

by Bernard on Sun Mar 17th, 2013 at 05:27:48 PM EST
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JaP
It's the upper middle class and the rich who have liquid assets in banks to worry about.

Que Business Insider: ZERVOS: 'This Is A Nuclear War On Savings And Wealth'

What happened to Cyprus on Friday evening was one of the most significant developments in the Eurozone since the Greek election last summer. To tax the bank deposits of savers sends an ominous message to the entire global investment community. All of us should really take a moment to consider what the governments of Europe have done. To be clear, they initiated a surprise assault on the precautionary savings of their own people. Such a move should send shock waves across the entire population of the developed world. This was not a Bernanke style slow moving financial repression against risk free savings that is meant to stir up animal spirits and force risk taking. This is a nuclear war on savings and wealth - something that will likely crush animal spirits. This is a policy move you expect from a dictatorial regime in sub-Saharan Africa, not in an EMU member state. If the European governments can clandestinely expropriate 7 to 10 percent of their hard working citizen's precautionary savings after the close of business on a Friday night, what else are they capable of doing? Why even hold money in a bank account? Are they trying to start a bank run?

....

...if the Cypriot parliament agrees to the tax, we should also see some serious instability develop at peripheral banks. Why keep your money at a Spanish or Italian bank when you can jump to Germany or France. And why even keep money in the Euroarea banking system at all. We should see huge outflows. Maybe I'm wrong and deposits stay sticky, but the risks here are HUGE and SCARY.

Right now, I would argue that the risk of an EMU exit by Cyprus is real. And this is much more of a clear and present danger than anything happening in Italy or Spain. And even without passage of the tax, the potential for a bank run is very real. As a consequence, these events are MUCH MORE important than the Italian election results, or frankly any other issue in Europe. (Emphasis from BI)




"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Mar 17th, 2013 at 10:58:38 PM EST
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The poor and the middle class (wage earners) will take their money out and put it under the mattress. Losing 10% is all the more damaging for them.

If European leaders are lucky it will be a while before people work this out, but if not, the bank runs will be vicious.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Mar 18th, 2013 at 05:22:35 AM EST
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I'm interested in the speculation that this is simply a sign of condescending impatience with the rest of Europe's spendthrift lazy socialist ways in Germany, and it's a prelude to a grand fuck-you foot-stomping exit by Berlin.

Which doesn't actually make any economic sense at all, and would be ruinous for everyone, including the German establishment.

But it's axiomatic that crazy people are crazy. So I suppose anything is possible.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Mar 18th, 2013 at 03:01:44 PM EST
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