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Maybrit Illner (none / 1)
For all german speakers, Theme Energiewende on Illner tonight. Looks as if she's lined up guests to burst Airbag Altmeier's lies (i hope). Please watch, because today's decisions have kept renewables in uncertainty, and under attack. I haven't previewed the show, but know some of the guests' positions. With luck, this show will begin to break the lies.

Muss ich dass auf Deutsch übersetzen?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 03:41:15 PM EST
Re: Maybrit Illner (4.00 / 4)
Muss ich dass auf Deutsch übersetzen?

No, just repeat slowly and louder. That always works.

by IM on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:03:28 PM EST
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Re: Maybrit Illner (none / 1)
"With luck, this show will begin to break the lies."

Even Die Tagesschau bashes Altmeier, so don't despair. He has only half a year left.

by Katrin on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:17:17 PM EST
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When i stood next to him in Husum, i so wanted to use his gut to test out my right-left-right quickness. Alas...

"half a year"?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:25:04 PM EST
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Half a year, because the SPD will not tolerate him in a grand coalition. At least not as environment minister, and I don't know a minister chair that is low enough for him. Perhaps development: after Niebel probably everything would be an improvement. In a black and green coalition Altmeier will certainly lose his job. If the CDU/CSU is kicked out of the government, he is on the dole too. There is only one constellation favourable for him. And we won't take pessimism so far as to think the FDP jumps the 5% again, will we?
by Katrin on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:55:08 PM EST
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Makes me wonder, predicting the guests' positions, if she wanted to try and set the record straight from her own favorable bias. She's going to have an energy economist call for more transparency, and less lying, about true energy costs. And if the chairman of EWE (5th largest energy concern, and owner of Alpha Ventus offshore park) says what he must, Altmeier is toast. (Not to mention Trittin, who first called Altmeier "Airbag." and the woman who wants to buy Berlin's grid.)

Was that slow and loud enough?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:21:51 PM EST
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To be honest I ignore this type of talk shows. I don't think they really move anything politically. Altmaier could killl himself (politically), but I doubt he is inept enough for that.
by IM on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:41:20 PM EST
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Agree. I haven't watched one for years.
by Katrin on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:49:13 PM EST
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Also agreed, but tonight is more about the messages sent to those not so politically evolved. Will tonight's show be a key time that major media deconstructs the prevalent lies?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 05:06:51 PM EST
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For non-German speakers, this is important as well, because renewables and the EEG (feed-in tariff law) is under serious attack in the home of sustainability, 'Schland (Germany). today's political Mist i don't think will prevail, but if it does, it won't bode well for the rest of Yurp.

At least renewables in 'Schland are so strong, as to make the worst case a compromise. Unless the current propaganda begins to take hold.

What's truly important for ETers to know is that both Trittin and his wife are Katzenjammer lovers, though i didn't see either at Marianne's solo effort (Dandylion, simply awesome, in Berlin two weeks ago.)



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 04:35:45 PM EST
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Re: Maybrit Illner (4.00 / 3)
As hoped for, it was the two women who carried the show, like normal NDN culture. i won't go into the details, but i will say, you couldn't have that show, that debate, in Amurka.

That the counter-culture woman with no money [pierced) wishes to buy the Berlin grid, that she was so intelligent and strong in her presence, and that the economist was able to destroy Airbag's statement by saying it was 0.03% of the year's electricity price, made me believe it's still ok to be human and take a stand.

How it affected the electorate i don't know, but it seems Berlin has a new heroine.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 06:43:19 PM EST
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and from a media culture analysis, me thought it was awesome that Illner's show had the berlin woman sitting in the audience at first, then gave her a mini-podium to speak, then brought her up to the main table for the rest of the show. And let her fire away.

Deconstruct that.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 06:47:55 PM EST
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Marianne (none / 0)
Hadn't seen this before but this is Dandylion (my opinion, one of the best singer songwriters of since decades)

saying OK, i write a pop song if i must.

after the Berlin show we didn't have enough time to meet, nor make plans. so we went to one of the 22,323 bars in Berlin. at half three, in walks the band. you can imagine the warmth, as they joined us in shining.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Mar 21st, 2013 at 08:06:48 PM EST
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