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You guys are so engaged in fighting WW2 again that you can't see the current European war that is staring you in the face!

After 121 comments, there's still no mention of Syria or Turkey anywhere in this diary. Turkey is part of Europe, right? And Syria's longest border is with Turkey. And they are not quite at war yet. But if you want to start calculating probabilities, I will put my bets on this as the starting point...

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=148325

by asdf on Wed Mar 6th, 2013 at 10:26:52 PM EST
Syria is not in Europe. And Turkey, who is perhaps in Europe or not, is not a EU member.

And even our most outspoken won't blame the syrian civil war on the ECB.*

* I hope so.

by IM on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 03:46:27 AM EST
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And we already know from 1974 what happens when Turkey goes to war with an EU state.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 03:49:41 AM EST
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Neither cyprus nor greece were EC members back then.
by IM on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 03:57:55 AM EST
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You're right. But Greece and Turkey were in NATO, which didn't stop them.

Syria is a member of Sarkozy's Union for the Mediterranean. Does that count? Or did that come to an end with Sarkozy himself?

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 04:08:26 AM EST
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Yes, but so is Norway, if I remember correctly.

i.e. it was an interesting idea, but was nobbled by northern european hegemony.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 04:12:41 AM EST
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that I've been meaning to write for a while: How Merkozy Killed EuroMed

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 04:25:00 AM EST
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I thought you had. I'm pretty sure it was both incisive and scathing.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 06:35:15 AM EST
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Either I have Alzheimer's, or you do, or it was a rant over chat.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 06:56:07 AM EST
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In a comment thread.

Several comment threads, actually.

Don't recall where and when, though.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 02:55:47 PM EST
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Oh, yeah, I was screaming bloody murder as it happened, too.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 03:17:24 PM EST
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No, it isn't. It's the EU plus Mediterranean states. The later include Palestine, represented by the Palestinian Authority (which does not border on the Mediterranean) rather than Hamas (which does).
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 04:25:36 AM EST
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And syria is even in your imagination not a EU member state, right?
by IM on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 03:58:51 AM EST
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Well, Russia isn't part of Europe either (at least if the rule is based on EU membership), and WW2 happened. You can't just ignore serious battles that are on your borders and that are already leaking over into your own territory.
by asdf on Thu Mar 7th, 2013 at 12:33:29 PM EST
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Of course you can. According to you, a civil war in Yemen would be a matter of the EU, because Yemen borders on Saudi-Arabia and Saudi-Arabia borders on Jordan and Jordan is bordering on Syria and Syria is bordering on Turkey and that is already europe.  
by IM on Sun Mar 10th, 2013 at 05:57:34 AM EST
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