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The system of electoral democracy is incredibly potent, as it grants the masses the formal power to control the laws and the government.

This proposition warrants a discussion. One could just as well substitute the term "masses" with "elites." Besides, your argument leads in that direction. Electoral systems were invented by non-hereditary elites to contrast or replace hereditary elites. They were not in the beginning recognized as being "democratic." The process of voter enfranchisement- perceived as a sign of democracy- continues to this day. We owe the association of "democracy" and electoral systems to Woodrow Wilson, a gentleman who had his day seven score after the great constitutional revolutions.

Are electoral systems really "democratic" and all one needs to do is a little tinkering to set it straight? Do voters actually feel obliged to deliberate their choices or are they more taken by peripheral cues such as which candidate wears the snappier shoes?

The actual "crisis" does recall the legend of the foundation of the Roman Republic. The abuse and greed of the Roman elite drove the people to abandon the city in what could be considered figuratively a total massive strike, perhaps the first in history. Perhaps the elite perceived the action as a two-fold danger: that the Roman citizens would soon represent a military danger under another banner, and that Rome had lost it's military force. Following this legendary conflict- which may have some factual basis- the Roman Republic was created as a hybrid state with competing institutions that represented the instances of either the elite or the masses, with ample deliberative and veto power granted to the people, their institutions and elected officials (or tribal representatives as some authors put it).

This is hardly the place to detail the history of that experiment but it was the primary source for Machiavelli's theories of the state and political power. In his vision the defining characteristic of the elite is to oppress, whereas the defining characteristic of the commons is the desire to be left alone (i.e., not to be oppressed.) Since there is no way to eliminate elites and since they also can have a beneficial function, the elite must be checked by popular deliberative and/or judiciary assemblies. Machiavelli further notes that in his republic parties would not be allowed because parties cause strife and factionalism in the masses- but, above all, parties are subject to manipulation. It is in this optic that members of certain institutions ought to be chosen by lot or rotation rather than vote.

Voting does have a strong psychological valence, although one need not delude oneself in believing it has a tangible effect. After all, one is most often delegating power to the less worse of choices and the toss of a coin or the snappy shoe works just as well in decision-making. Ideally one feels voting contributes to a sense of civic community and a manner of resolving conflict through the peaceful means by the "tyranny of numbers." But if each citizen felt that he of she could be chosen by chance to deliberate on crucial issues for the common good for a determined period, would that not also foster a sense of community and citizenry within the state?

Not quite off the mark, back to Machiavelli. He maintained that the commons never resort to violence, and gives ample demonstration that the elites not only resort systematically to violence, but also to treachery and treason. Anything goes to oppress. His is a running commentary on what's going on today.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Aug 21st, 2013 at 07:21:59 PM EST
I think a big difference between modern and ancient society is that modern society really doesn't need the skills and knowledge of the economic elites.  Minus a few examples who tend to become celebrities thanks to their incredible accomplishments, Pretty much across the board, they are dumber and less competent than the striving middle class beneath them.

In the past, a massacre of the elites would result in the more or less complete collapse of a culture and a civilization.  They were the ones who could read, who had studied stuff, and who had the social skills to (in theory) keep things going.  Without the tiny group at the top, you'd have a mass of marginally educated townspeople, and illiterate and more or less neolithic peasants.  Sure, the people would survive, but it wouldn't be anything recognizable as civilization.  Post-Roman Europe comes to mind.

Nowadays, it would merely be the lifting of a parasitic rentier class.

by Zwackus on Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 at 08:02:31 AM EST
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In the USA we are likely talking about fewer than 20,000.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 at 10:43:54 AM EST
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I certainly agree with your last point and your characterization of modern economic elites. It is however difficult for me to distinguish it from the past, partly because some ancient societies, which lasted longer than our present day constitutional republics, such as the Roman Republic and the Athenian democracy, enjoyed mass participation in politics that managed to keep the various elites in check much of the time. Beyond Pol Pot and Cortez, Carthage and Taranto, I can't think off hand of any wholesale massacre of the local elites. And all massacres were perpetrated by invading armies or rival elites. As for the gradual collapse or transition of the Western Roman Empire, there was no elimination of the elites. They were perhaps just as dumb and parasitic as their modern heirs and got along on expedience, corruption and private armies.
  Elites, through greed, stupidity and banking on immediate short-term gratification, always owe their acquired intelligence and skills to a social contract with the commons. Without an institutionalized conflict between classes there is only brute tyranny, indiscriminate oppression by the one class that can afford the costs of violence management.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sat Aug 24th, 2013 at 07:04:33 PM EST
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I can't think off hand of any wholesale massacre of the local elites.

The French and Russian Revolutions leap to mind.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Aug 24th, 2013 at 11:11:32 PM EST
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rival elites.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 at 03:17:35 AM EST
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The groups establishing themselves as elite after the revolutions were as far as I know not part of the elite, rather they belonged to an educated middle-class. Naturally in perfect accordance with Goldstein's The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 at 04:26:51 AM EST
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Pareto!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elite

Now did Orwell read Pareto?

by IM on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 at 05:45:53 AM EST
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Orwell was at least familiar with Pareto.

Here is Orwell writing a review of Burnham in 1946.

George Orwell - James Burnham and the Managerial Revolution - Essay

Burnham lays much stress on Pareto's theory of the "circulation of the elites". If it is to stay in power a ruling class must constantly admit suitable recruits from below, so that the ablest men may always be at the top and a new class of power-hungry malcontents cannot come into being. This is likeliest to happen, Burnham considers, in a society which retains democratic habits--that is, where opposition is permitted and certain bodies such as the press and the trade unions can keep their autonomy.


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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 at 06:54:07 AM EST
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Should have remembered that review.

A sound thrashing, that.

by IM on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 at 07:01:41 AM EST
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I'll have to check whether Machiavelli read Pareto (along with Livy)- or vice versa...
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 at 05:55:11 PM EST
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Surely it is Pareto that read Machiavelli, unless time travel was involved.

Vilfredo Pareto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vilfredo Federico Damaso Pareto (born Wilfried Fritz Pareto; Italian: [vilˈfreːdo paˈreːto]; 15 July 1848 - 19 August 1923) was an Italian engineer, sociologist, economist, political scientist and philosopher. He made several important contributions to economics, particularly in the study of income distribution and in the analysis of individuals' choices. He was also responsible for popularising the use of the term "elite" in social analysis.

He introduced the concept of Pareto efficiency and helped develop the field of microeconomics. He was also the first to discover that income follows a Pareto distribution, which is a power law probability distribution. The Pareto principle was named after him and built on observations of his such as that 80% of the land in Italy was owned by 20% of the population. He also contributed to the fields of sociology and mathematics.



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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Aug 26th, 2013 at 03:43:41 AM EST
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"The Pareto principle was named after him and built on observations of his such as that 80% of the land in Italy was owned by 20% of the population."

Which is pretty much communist by today's standards...

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Aug 27th, 2013 at 07:37:06 AM EST
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I think it is more accurate to say that what actual democracy does is allow the masses to pick and choose among elites.

That is why gerrymandering is such a corrosive assault on democracy, since it allows the elected to choose the electors that they prefer.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Aug 24th, 2013 at 06:29:14 PM EST
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It allows what it allows in any particular time and place.  Most of the time, yes, you're entirely correct.  The modern era is a particularly extreme example of that, but it's also the product of a decades long attack on an electoral democracy that in the pre-war and post-war period had set up a legal and economic system that was distinctly unfriendly to the mass accumulation of the richest few.

I also think there's an element of systemic stress and danger that promotes effective policies and effective government, on the one hand, and (in the modern era) opens the door to greater political participation by the commoners.  The difference in the political atmosphere between pre-WWI and post-WWI was like night and day.  Part of this was the recognition of just what a full mobilization of the state for war would require.  Part of this was the recognition that the working classes were really necessary in a way that a lot of the elites had let themselves forget in the long and lazy 19th century.  Part of this was the recognition by the working classes that this necessity gave them the power to demand political participation and economic reform.  And part of it was that the Red Terror.

Nowadays, it seems that too many people think there's no real danger to the system remaining, so it's time to get fat and lazy and inefficient.  We've won, so it's time to divvy the spoils.

by Zwackus on Sun Aug 25th, 2013 at 12:42:13 AM EST
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