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Back to my original point - there is no intrinsic draw for Appalachian folk to vote for people oppressing them. The republicans managed to capture them with their racism, and I think the overall appeal is very shakey when you start thinking in decades. The white people from the deep south are the people who will continue to believe that social castes are natural and handed down by god himself. Their timeline for change is measured in centuries, I think, beyond being dragged into the present by the more progressive areas of the US.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Aug 24th, 2013 at 09:47:59 PM EST
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All that is needed is for a substantial portion of that demographic to wake up and act accordingly. Perhaps primarily women and the college 'educated', given the seemingly almost hereditary antipathy to unions. (Note: my father was a registered Republican who helped organize and was the founding president of a local of the Operating Engineers in the Oklahoma oilfield in 1955.)

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Aug 24th, 2013 at 11:05:41 PM EST
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Its not just the Republicans, though ~ the type of progressive populism that was the Democrats strongest drawcard in Appalachia was strategically abandoned in the 1980's with the move to recruit the Hedge Fund wing of the party.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Aug 26th, 2013 at 05:57:03 AM EST
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Their abandoning of left-wing politics didn't help in general either.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Aug 26th, 2013 at 03:25:08 PM EST
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But among various left wing positions, it was the economic populism that was a net positive in Appalachian politics ... and there it was a big net positive.

Being socially liberal corporate toadies just isn't a big drawcard in that area.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Sep 2nd, 2013 at 12:17:59 AM EST
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In my mind "liberal corporate toadie" politics isn't left wing. The republicans threw away their own main street, pro-small-business angle as they started to take on more big corporate money as well. It didn't come out as poorly in the wash since they've done well with the nationalism and fundamentalism angles.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Sep 2nd, 2013 at 12:55:11 AM EST
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