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they still look pretty damn socialist in comparison to the politics current in a lot of countries China.
It may be 'glorious to be rich' but that is not an option for any but cadres, their families, some Taiwanese and Hong Kong residents and a lucky few other Chinese. Whether the average worker is better off as a wage slave than as a rural agricultural worker is hard to say, but there seems a dearth of good jobs all around. The vanguard has left the proletariat in the mud. China is extolled as a model because it has the relationship between capital and labor which our elites desire to create in 'The West'. Like Arkansans say 'thank God for Mississippi!' Chinese elites must say 'thank Heaven for North Korea!'.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Aug 30th, 2013 at 08:37:05 PM EST
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.. No, no it is not. The answer is "yes". Or they would not keep moving into the cities the way they are. This is not so much a statement that being a Chinese factory worker is the gravy train, more that being a peasant sucks unspeakably.
by Thomas on Sun Sep 1st, 2013 at 03:57:13 PM EST
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The British industrialization (and the Danish for that matter) provides a number of examples of ways in which the answer might be "no" and migration still happen.

I don't know enough about rural China to comment intelligently, but I do know that in rural India, peasants are chased off their historical holdings by goons with guns and more or less official sanction from more or less crooked officials.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 1st, 2013 at 04:08:05 PM EST
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The answer is "yes". Or they would not keep moving into the cities the way they are.

But when a development such as Ordos or an industry such as many of the export manufacturers goes sour, very many rural immigrants return to their families where at least they can get food. Those that have no such family and cannot find other work are out of luck.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Sep 4th, 2013 at 01:57:34 PM EST
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