Say that you have a nice mix of wind, solar and hydro. Now climate change moves wind from your wind mills, clouds to your solar and sun to the areas that lead water to your hydro dams.

i know this is not your argument, it's way too silly, you are playing devil's avocado.

if we can reverse climate change we still have deserts, if we can't we'll have more.

heck even moving huge gobs of panels is a minute logistical problem compared to say ring-fencing the aqua fallout from fukedupshima, or building out new coal plants.

what mystifies me is that china has less entrenched extraction industry lobbies, yet still has its head up its ass for the most part.

there have been more quacks about renewables lately from them, but opening coal plants and digging it up have to be way more costly than solarising the Gobi and gridding, and that's just economically, before you take into account the effects on climate and our emotional well-being (literally priceless), and absolutely not factored in.

the downline health savings alone would be prodigious...

damn weak tea as arguments go, imo.

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