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French senators strongly attack EU-US trade deal | EurActiv

During a debate in the French Senate, all political parties harshly criticised the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), but the French government defended the potential deal, EurActiv France reports.

The minister in charge of foreign trade, Nicole Bricq, admit with regret that France was the country where the mobilisation against what they call the 'transatlantic treaty', is the strongest.

A debate, which took place in the Senate on Thursday (9 January), showed bipartisan opposition to the agreement and the government found itself somewhat isolated on the topic after facing criticism from speakers from all political sides.

The most moderate speakers underlined the potential opportunities that the opening of the US public markets would represent for French companies.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 13th, 2014 at 02:09:07 PM EST
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Considering trade deals are all about moving power away form parliaments, it is appropriate that all parties in parliament are opposed. It is also a sign of our times that it seems to matter little.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 05:32:49 AM EST
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The deal is negotiated by the EU, so national parliaments should matter less than the European Parliament which is consultative anyway.

Looks like it's game over for Parliaments in Europe...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 05:39:37 AM EST
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Don't treaties need to be ratified by nations, which in the constitutional process would likely include parliaments?

I'd find it hard to believe Brussels could bind nations to treaties.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 06:22:14 AM EST
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Legal personality of the Union
Article 47 of the Treaty on European Union (TEU) explicitly recognises the legal personality of the European Union (EU). Until now, only the European Community (EC) and the European Atomic Energy Community (EAEC) had legal personality.

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The conferral of legal personality on the Union means that it henceforth has the ability to conclude and negotiate international agreements in accordance with its external commitments, to become a member of international organisations and to join international conventions, such as the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).

One of the goals of giving the EU Legal Personality was to allow it to negotiate at the WTO.

Note that the EC already had legal personality, and it covered trade matters.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 06:28:21 AM EST
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Jeezuz...

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 07:22:45 AM EST
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Has anyone we trust done an analysis of the proposals? I haven't been following in detail and I haven't seen any analysis that can stand up to any sort of critical examination.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 06:42:21 AM EST
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That takes actual work...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 06:44:54 AM EST
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<uuurrgh>
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 06:53:51 AM EST
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There is afaik no public proposals, it is being negotiated and the public is not welcome. However, there is the Trans-Pacific Partnership to compare with, it is further along and has had some leaks.

Trans-Pacific Partnership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz warned that the TPP presented "grave risks".[88] Organized labor in the United States argues that the trade deal would largely benefit big business at the expense of workers in the manufacturing and service industries.[89] The Economic Policy Institute and the Center for Economic and Policy Research have argued that the TPP could result in further job losses and declining wages.[90][91] Noam Chomsky warns that the TPP is "designed to carry forward the neoliberal project to maximize profit and domination, and to set the working people in the world in competition with one another so as to lower wages to increase insecurity."[92]

Ilana Solomon, Sierra Club director of responsible trade, argues that the TPP "could directly threaten our climate and our environment [including] new rights that would be given to corporations, and new constraints on the fossil fuel industry all have a huge impact on our climate, water, and land."[93]

A second leaked set of draft documents indicates that public concern has had little impact on the negotiations.[94] These documents also indicate there are strong disagreements between the United States and negotiating parties on the issues of intellectual property, agricultural subsidies, and financial services.[95]

Also, Dean Baker has read the study that is used as motivation in public.

The US-EU trade deal: don't buy the hype | Dean Baker | Comment is free | theguardian.com

As growth policy, this trade deal doesn't pass the laugh test, but that doesn't mean that it may not be very important to a number of special interests and, for this reason, bad news for most of the public. Since conventional barriers to trade between the US and EU are already very low, the focus of the deal will be on non-conventional barriers, meaning various regulatory practices.

Each industry group has a list of regulations that it finds troublesome, which it has been unable to eliminate or weaken at the national or sub-national level. An EU-US trade agreement provides these industry groups with an opportunity to do an end-run around such regulation.

For example, several countries in Europe and many state and county governments in the United States impose restrictions that make fracking difficult or impossible. In their dream agreement, the oil and gas industries will have a set of minimal restrictions on fracking. The deal will then define anything more stringent as a restraint on trade subject to penalties.

There are likely to be similar effects on food regulation. Europe has far more restrictions on genetically modified foods and crops than the United States. Since it is not possible, given current European politics, for the industry to get these restrictions eliminated, it will be looking to include provisions in a trade deal that define limits on genetically modified foods and crops as trade barriers.

Millions of people took part in the efforts last year to defeat Sopa and Pipa, two bills that would require individuals and internet intermediaries to proactively work to stop the transmission of unauthorized reproductions of copyrighted material. The entertainment industry would very much like to include comparable provisions in a trade agreement, so that it can avoid having to have another fight over this issue in Congress

The TTIP negotiations has also had leaks.

Leaked proposal for EU-US trade deal increases business power in decision-making | Corporate Europe Observatory

A leaked EU negotiation proposal for the EU-US trade agreement reveals the European Commission's plans to fundamentally change the way regulations will be adopted in the future. Such reforms, if adopted, could seriously undermine existing EU rules on food safety, consumer protection, the environment and many other areas as the proposals give new powers to business to call a halt to proposed legislation which conflicts with their interests, or to re-negotiate existing regulations.


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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 07:25:01 AM EST
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It's the most important thing happening this year, with respect to European law, environment, consumers, etc... Do us a diary, ASKOD!

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by eurogreen on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 07:35:14 AM EST
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M'kay.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 08:08:55 AM EST
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Except for the Bundestag, when it suits Angie.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 14th, 2014 at 07:32:19 AM EST
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