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CiU's is not a secular collapse, it's just ERC recently eating its nationalist lunch.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 11:13:45 AM EST
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Which is why I doubt they go into coalition with ERC again. And that.  That wipes out two of the coalitions you mentioned below.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 11:28:13 AM EST
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That may well be, but then repeat elections tend to clarify the landscape. So, the question is how would voters react to a hung parliament and a second round of elections. Which parties would drain support to which other parties?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 11:34:02 AM EST
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Agreed. I imagine that we only see more polarization.  And I think that the CiU splits open.

In the long run, ERC wins out.  And they opt for a unilateral declaration of independence.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 12:09:23 PM EST
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How does unilateral independence work, politically and on the ground?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 12:22:34 PM EST
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Probably as well as it did in 1934.

It was an ERC President of the Generalitat that proclaimed the Catalan Republic in 1934.

He was imprisoned and replaced by a military governor, with the Catalan government suspended.

Presumably this time the new governor will not be a general.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 03:52:31 PM EST
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My point being, does ERC have, or think they have, strength on the ground to pull off a unilateral declaration of independence? The current independence referendum drive didn't get past Artur Mas' unwillingness to ask Catalan civil servants to carry out illegal orders.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 06:59:17 PM EST
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Does politics always have to be rational?


And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Oct 21st, 2014 at 07:37:20 PM EST
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