The bad experiences weren't made, they were inflicted.

Thanks for the language note.

ThatBritGuy:

To dismiss these experiences as irrelevant to this thread when they happened, and continue to happen, in the communities of interest you consider 'oppressed', is simple intellectual dishonesty

Hm, I am wondering about standards for dispassionate replies. It is possible that I missed some valid argument between the diatribes, but I think you have only raised two valid arguments on this thread: you complained about a policy of the state UK that includes religion in the curriculum of state schools upthread. And you complain about the sexual and other abuse of children that was enabled by the structure (mainly the hierarchical nature) of the (Catholic) church, and again (as in the case of the curriculum) the interlocking of the institutions of state and church. Your complaints are about structures exercising power. I completely share this criticism. Structures of institutions of state and church must be separated, everything else is damaging for both sides.

My topic here is human rights. I am talking about attempts to empty the public space of references to religion, which seriously narrows down the debate of ethical questions. And, related, the attempts to blame some minorities for our social and political problems and to take their human rights away. And what happens to human rights when you exclude one group of humans from enjoying them? They are no longer human rights.