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The "religious ghetto" is the Lutheran Church. As mainstream as you can get here. I am not saying that the intolerant or overzealous weren't there somewhere--but in my experience they aren't dominant to the exclusion of diversity of views or the abuse of children's independence of thought. All differences and conflicts considered: it is no way like what you describe as your experience.
by Katrin on Tue Feb 4th, 2014 at 10:13:26 AM EST
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If I am allowed to start yet another sidetrack: do you have an explanation for the fact that the German Lutheran Church is losing (tax-paying) members even faster than the Catholics? This was always a mystery to me: IMHO the main reason for the dwindling of the Catholics in almost all Catholic-majority areas of Europe is the ugliness and viciousness of the clergy, while the German Lutheran clergy is quite the opposite. The only explanation I could come up with was that modern German Lutheranism makes ditching religion too easy by voiding all the compulsion (including the threat of social expulsion). That is, with only a little exaggeration: it became too tolerant to sustain itself.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Feb 4th, 2014 at 02:55:25 PM EST
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Yes, that is it. You really have no disadvantage for not being a member.
by Katrin on Tue Feb 4th, 2014 at 04:35:43 PM EST
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Same with Church of Sweden. Pretty much all publicity is bad publicity for them as it reminds people to leave. They had a campaign for people to vote in the Church election which reached many, prompting people to leave. Not that the campaign was bad or that there was not voting options for every taste, but just by reminding people that they are members.

Similar with the Swedish royalties. As long as they just do some ritual ribbon cutting they are popular, but when they do stuff that puts them in the spotlight - even positive things like weddings or kids - their popularity goes down as people are reminded of what a strange institution it is.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Feb 4th, 2014 at 04:52:18 PM EST
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Yes. Voting rights (but most people don't vote anyway), and of the two godparents of a child at least one must be a member (but one is enought), and in order to get married in church one of the partners must be a church member (but you don't marry that often in your life). I think that's it with the list of disadvantages.
by Katrin on Tue Feb 4th, 2014 at 05:09:02 PM EST
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