Absolutely not. Why is it illogical?

because the point is that it doesn't matter what aegis the group is coming together under, they can be the dominant regional church or the trainspotters' club, as long as they aren't naziskins or something equally abhorrent. there's no extra weight behind anyone's opinion, their affiliations or belief-systems notwithstanding. don't you see the implied victimology in your question? why would you ask it unless you were trying to provoke some kind of aggrieved response, (from someone to whom the mention of religion is a trigger for some past unpleasant event, like some holocaust survivors who can't hear the word 'gas' without getting the horrors) which then justifies your prejudice that expects that reaction?

i do think it's admirable that you want to protect peoples' feelings and avoid unnecessary constraints on peoples' choices but rather than changing peoples' minds here i think your posts tend to harden them.

we can have ideas about how to make societies more harmonic and disagree without using religion as a virtual cudgel or a plea for extra compassion.

to atheists religious talk shuts down their comprehension circuits, if you need religion for your argument it means you don't have one.

i happen to think you do, but your bringing religion into the discussion makes your goal of communication to anyone  more distant rather than closer.

when religion enters the public sphere it should tiptoe, as its track record has so many errors it should stay humble, otherwise you are going to get heavy pushback from people who feel that religion is irrelevant and like sufferers of centuries of PTSD just don't want to go there.

how many of us in this discussion have had ancestors burned as witches, or conversely had their lives saved by some religious person for religious reasons?

religion is very complex and probably pre-rational, which doesn't mean post-religious secularism has all the answers, which is why freedom of religion is tolerated, as long as it doesn't get too big for its social boots.

teenagers are going to want to individuate, not always in friendly ways. i know your efforts are to remove causes for bullying, and it is becoming a terrible problem these days, so i hope you are successful in your work, there is no excuse for it.

 we are all bullied by rules we didn't sign up for...

Katrin:

That's not my intention. I am trying to get answers that one can move on from

that implies finality. unlike this thread ;)

interesting to observe whether you get what you are attempting to obtain.... some kind of closure perhaps?

a ringing last chord? tonic resolution?

you may be arguing with your own shadow!

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