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Right. Agree completely. And if I am not free from your a-religion, then I am not free to practice my religion. Do you agree?

That depends whether you believe 'practice' automatically includes the right to force your religion on your kids in ways that will cripple their ability to make free adult choices about spirituality later in life.

Look - this isn't hard. The Jesuits know how this works. Francis Xavier said 'Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man.'

Considering how tolerant the Jesuits were, it's unlikely he meant '...Because my tender care is the best way to promote free spiritual choice for adults.'

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Feb 13th, 2014 at 09:33:36 AM EST
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In practice, it may mean that they could mould his personality, not necessarily make him a believer: See Fidel Castro, James Joyce, and Alfred Hitchcock for examples.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:12:30 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:

That depends whether you believe 'practice' automatically includes the right to force your religion on your kids in ways that will cripple their ability to make free adult choices about spirituality later in life.

I haven't given you the slightest reason to assume I wanted to force or cripple children or their abilities, and I resent that you insinuate I did.

by Katrin on Thu Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:59:46 AM EST
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Well, it's true you've claimed that isn't your intent. And I think that's likely true.

Unfortunately that doesn't alter the fact that you're promoting systems of belief that can have that effect in practice, while heroically ignoring all the arguments and evidence that they do.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Feb 15th, 2014 at 07:32:15 AM EST
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you're promoting systems of belief that can have that effect in practice

while you are representing the totally unblemished record of atheist movements. I see.

by Katrin on Sat Feb 15th, 2014 at 03:18:03 PM EST
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