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I am not sure that the official Catholic sexual moral requires systematic lying about fact-claims to support. It is a condemnation of many forms of human sexual behaviour. That is not so much a fact claim as setting the rule that the behaviour is undesirable. I am very much in favour of involving the Catholic church in debate about it, from the outside and from the inside, because we agree that in reality the undesirable behaviour is that of the church issuing these ratings and rules. I criticise parents who tell their children to behave according to this dogma, but I don't think their behaviour is necessarily abusive. I wouldn't remove the children or so. Their behaviour falls neither in the category of what I approve of nor in the category of what I want banned. There are several loathsome doctrines around which do not have any place in civilized society as I want it, but one must tolerate that people adhere to them.
by Katrin on Thu Feb 13th, 2014 at 02:31:25 PM EST
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The Catholic Church implicitly disagrees with your assessment that its sexual doctrines can be supported without systematically lying about factual matters.

(Assuming, that is, that the Catholic Church prefers not-lying over lying when possible. Which is, of course, a claim one might challenge.)

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Feb 13th, 2014 at 02:57:57 PM EST
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"Fact : God gave us naughty bits in order to procreate within the bounds of holy wedlock. Any other utilisation of said naughty bits is expressly prohibited : this is written in the book of rules. That is all."

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Feb 14th, 2014 at 03:51:13 AM EST
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eurogreen:
...this is written in the book of rules. That is all.

"Rules", exactly.

by Katrin on Fri Feb 14th, 2014 at 12:55:33 PM EST
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