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Problem 1 - fifty years ago the beliefs would have been considered mundane and self-evident, and not discriminatory at all.

What do you think is the modern equivalent - the beliefs that religious type consider self-evident today, but will be seen to be discriminatory after another fifty years of progress?

Problem 2 - to atheists, the forced use of public prayer in primary schools in the UK is discriminatory, especially if you have children and don't want them indoctrinated with religion.

Do you consider that discriminatory too? If not, why not?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 3rd, 2014 at 05:21:34 PM EST
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I'm quite shocked to learn that the UK still has compulsory prayer in primary schools! Yes, that is discriminatory.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Mon Feb 3rd, 2014 at 05:50:15 PM EST
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And as I, and many others happily attest, the way x-tianism is used in schools is one of the main drivers of atheism in the UK.

Observance is presented as ritual devoid of content, the educational aspect of classroom "religious education" ended up unavoidably as an examination of the multitude of contradictions and obvious fabrications within the smorgasbord of myths and ideologies present in the bible. Or at least it was when I was in school.

Religious belief based on the Bible is laughable. I thank the British education system for that and wouldn't remove that bit at all

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 4th, 2014 at 09:04:52 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:

Problem 1 - fifty years ago the beliefs would have been considered mundane and self-evident, and not discriminatory at all

No, of course not. 50 years ago gay sex was banned by law. In Germany the last bit of that law was only scrapped in 1994, so you needn't go back 50 years. Can you really expect that new ideas are adopted perfectly synchronously by law and churches, or what exactly is the problem as you say?

ThatBritGuy:

Do you consider that discriminatory too?

Yes.

by Katrin on Mon Feb 3rd, 2014 at 06:27:52 PM EST
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Can you really expect that new ideas are adopted perfectly synchronously by law and churches, or what exactly is the problem as you say?

The problem is that churches are, on average, lagging rather than leading adopters of progressive ideas.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Feb 6th, 2014 at 03:52:18 PM EST
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"on average" is not very enlightening. I find that churches in urban centres are much quicker adapting to a shift in social mores while churches in rural areas lag behind. And surprise surprise--so does the general population.

by Katrin on Thu Feb 6th, 2014 at 04:17:00 PM EST
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