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The US Government, the Ukraine and the truth. | 7 comments (7 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
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Since we're quoting Naked Capitalism, here is commenter BigRed:

Ukraine: Is Obama Channeling Cheney? | naked capitalism

To add some nuance, because Mr. Hudson unfortunately messed up:

1) Monitor doesn't claim that shots were only from the hotel but that there also shots fired from the hotel, additionally to government buildings.
2)The doctor they talk to, who they claim was treating victims from both sides, says that the victims had been hit by the same type of bullets, which Monitor uses to argue that those shots were probably not fired by police since they wouldn't have shot their own guys. Since he's not the only one who treated demonstrators, this doesn't allow to draw further conclusions.

There's obvious need to counteract the pro-EU/NATO propaganda. But by overstating claims, TRNN leaves itself open to justified attacks that undermine the larger issue.

Transcript of the Monitor report in German is here: http://www.wdr.de/tv/monitor/sendungen/2014/0410/maidan.php5

Having read the linked report this is entirely correct.

by generic on Fri Apr 18th, 2014 at 10:59:27 AM EST
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There remains controversy over who and how many fired shots at the Maidan and Hudson does gloss over that subject. To this 'American' that is hardly a fatal flaw in his presentation, which really is about how the whole story has been presented by US media to the US audience. My lack of German prevented me from watching the Monitor program. My own surmise, that it is quite believable that the US would support people who would shoot their own just to create the needed chaos, probably was a factor in my not recalling similar, earlier discussions of that issue at ET. And, yes, I do want to see the US fail if it is attempting to implement Brzezinski's agenda, as I believe it is, just as I want to see the 'American Empire' taken down, whether by the USA or despite the USA. The whole process is inimical to the continued existence of constitutional government in the USA and the interests of all but a tiny elite.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Apr 18th, 2014 at 11:31:00 AM EST
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