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Since last year I looked into PUA offerings, after recognizing own lousy nerdy dating "resume". So I will chip in. The PUA online commerce is very active, with products of variable quality and creative payment policies. To get to the good stuff, you need patience and to be less stingy. And deep down, (more or less) everything boils down to guy's character, social intelligence. Women are human beings? Certainly. Especially when it comes to emotions, a guy has to look at a woman humanly without reciprocity expectation. Elliot surely failed at that.

Many guys objectively need good info and help, to overcome the first (pretty strict) dating hurdles and to be more delightful to the girls they fancy. Staying a "gamma" guy can be no less painful than some injustice. On the other hand, that pain and confusion is a part of the evolutionary game, socially acceptable without much argument. Male neediness is a big turn off sexually. These emotions go beyond intellectual or moral understanding.

The PUA community gives more real guidance to baffled guys than anyone else - by far. But eventually, a guy has to take initiative himself to figure out relationship subtleties. One particular confusion for me was "tic-for-tac", "I'll scratch your back, then you scratch back" tips. These equivalence suggestions are not helpful at all. A guy has to show a good deal of determination, leadership, own direction instead. Looking for feedback is just weak - it leads to a down "tic-for-tac" spiral soon.

The relationship basics are not that hard - but then, is there a point to enlighten everyone? Confused young men and women are part of the social game: status and resource competitions, hierarchy joys. This touches primal habits of human species - and perhaps deep evolutionary imperatives of population size control.

by das monde on Sat May 31st, 2014 at 07:55:06 AM EST
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I read his manifesto to try and get some insight into his psyche and it is horribly fascinating, as he is very articulate and has a memory for detail.

A textbook example of narcissistic grandiosity ("I am magnificent!") coupled to a shyness around women.

Add exposure to extreme wealth, pop culture celebrity and a complete buy-in to the uber-consumerist values of the time and space he inhabited, then make guns childishly easy to obtain, and the perfect cocktail of self-loathing and misogyny had nowhere to go except into punish mode, enraged envy providing the fuse.

I can't recommend reading it, but I did learn a little from it.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat May 31st, 2014 at 09:40:40 AM EST
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