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While there's no disputing Mig's point (and I don't), yours seems to be a quibble.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 24th, 2014 at 12:58:50 AM EST
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It really isn't, unless you accept as a matter of course that industrial society is not, primarily, governed bottom-up.

There are plenty of people who would dispute that proposition.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jun 24th, 2014 at 05:27:19 AM EST
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Not sure I follow you there.

My point is that "local-ness" and "dependence" are not absolutes. Endeavours of different kinds may be more or less local, more or less autonomous.

If my municipality's electricity authority buys a turbine, it isn't buying local production and it isn't independent of non-local heavy industry. But that turbine installed on the river is local in the sense that the energy source is local, the finance is local, distribution is locally-owned, and the management is to some extent local. There's a degree of dependence and a degree of autonomy.

If I have a farm, that has distinct characteristics of "local-ness": the soil, the climate, the hydrography limit or potentiate my production. That production may also be locally sold. I cannot produce without the aid of industrial goods (tools), but the tools are useless without the other factors of production that I possess.

Why this matters to me is because, in my view, the richness and liveliness of a democracy are enabled by a degree of local autonomy, and depleted by the alienation of authoritarian top-down structures.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jun 25th, 2014 at 05:37:45 AM EST
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Your definitions for local and dependence may work - for the scale you apply them: local autonomy.

They probably fall apart the moment you consider them, like I assume Jake is doing, at the system-wide, global scale.

It reminds me of structural geology: on the basis of local observations one can only assume the geological history of one local area as true, for as long you don't look at the area at a regional scale - which can show you that your assumptions were perfectly holding for the scale you were using, but perfectly wrong for applying them at a larger perspective.

by Bjinse on Wed Jun 25th, 2014 at 07:57:08 AM EST
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