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Is it not funny that all discussion here is about sex? What would we be talking here without that diary section?

To egg on, I will suggest that both monotheistic religions and logical-scientific constructs (such as Theory of Everything in physics, and even trust in sufficiency of the scientific method) emotionally are manifestations of the authority reverence ;-)

by das monde on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 10:29:15 AM EST
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A theory of everything might be attractive because it would explain how gravity and electromagnetism (and nuclear forces) interact, which might be nice to know.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 10:50:28 AM EST
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And knowing everything is an alpha feeling.
by das monde on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 10:52:32 AM EST
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It's nice that you've found a hammer, but that's not a nail.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 10:53:30 AM EST
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No, this discussion is a nail so far.
by das monde on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 10:58:02 AM EST
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I think status is a driver for most-to-all humans, but "alpha" is a different thing: it's zero-sum status.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 10:56:48 AM EST
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Not necessarily. After the World Cup, one nation will feel hugely alpha. The other nations will (very likely) either get over pretty quickly, or will have their own good feelings.

If a joint expedition will land on Mars, won't the whole planet feel alpha?

by das monde on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 11:03:15 AM EST
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I'm interpreting "alpha" here as some sort of dominance-over-others feeling, which seems consistent with its normal usage and your argument here. That's not the only source of feelings of status.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 11:05:47 AM EST
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My interpretation of alpha is broader.
by das monde on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 11:59:10 AM EST
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You might want to define it then ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 12:06:16 PM EST
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Gathering my want...

Alpha is a leading individual, not necessarily on the whole tribe/society level, but (for example) in some field/domain, or of some group of people.

by das monde on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 12:18:03 PM EST
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So it's about perceived extrinsic status?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 17th, 2014 at 04:50:59 AM EST
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It is not necessarily a formal status. (Spelling out bickering will not show the best of us, by the way.)

There is usually a large correlation between internal, external and behavioral status. Incongruence is not appreciated by women.

by das monde on Tue Jun 17th, 2014 at 05:04:16 AM EST
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Your remarks about sex are "politically incorrect", so they obviously are attracting a lot of attention :)

However I'd like to take you up on this :

Anyway, I am now open to the idea that to live your life fully it is good to embrace the abundance idea of (potentially) living as some king.

You seem to be talking about the desirability of embracing an "alpha" role of dominance over others. That's just as alarming to me as your views on sexual politics. :)

It's something I have great difficulty with, in fact. For me, the whole point of achieving status is to have one's worth recognised by a group of peers; preferably, by a high-quality group of peers. Where's the fun in being surrounded by inferiors?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 11:20:13 AM EST
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Political Correctness went too far, and is gradually being slaughtered. We better adjust his boundaries before too late.

To me personally, embracing alpha is about achievement. It is too funny to want something done, get some prize - but do not affect other people. It is like wishing to start a relationship while "carefully avoiding" changing woman's life. All change is personal - and full of emotions. They say, king's big fun is giving to his kingdom - not praise and validation.

And this gives an idea for challenging the modern oppressive alphas - framing them as incongruent, greedy, needy wussies with no shame. Not real kings but parasites.

by das monde on Mon Jun 16th, 2014 at 11:54:37 AM EST
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