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I'm too old to believe that the Tory press has any convictions it's not being paid to have.

So the question, then, is who's paying the Torygraph to pretend to think this?

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2014 at 08:59:43 AM EST
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There is always a market in local chauvinism, jingoism and xenophobia, and many willing to make money out of it.  But yes, if big business were to withdraw advertising...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Sep 30th, 2014 at 09:12:31 AM EST
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There are votes in euro-scepticism. See also UKIP, which is led by a classic braying jackass former commodities trader who appears to have hypnotised the British electorate into believing that he offers a Fresh New Voice of Change. (Idiots.)

My suspicion is that Cameron always knew that 2015 was lost, so be could promise anything and everything knowing he'd never have to deliver.

Thus the Tories get the best of both worlds. They get votes from a wedge issue, and they also get to keep the financial benefits of being in the EU.

Short-term, that's enough.

UKIP have no chance of forming a government, or even of becoming kingmakers in a coalition. They'd be much less pliant partners than the LibDems have been, and they fill most of the Tory grandees with a visceral revulsion.

The grandees probably feel some attrition in the upper-middle class MP ranks is acceptable, as long as no one important defects. (They won't.)

If it's a given that Labour win in 2015, the grandees can kick the UKIP can down the road until 2020 and work out what they want to do with it then, while the Two Eds screw up and become hated between now and then.

Also, Boris, who is the (barely) thinking person's Farrage.

It's not obvious what state the EU will be in by then, so it's a reasonable gamble.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:02:48 PM EST
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I could see UKIP benefiting from English resentment at DevoMax as well as the EU and splitting the right wing vote and allowing Labour in with only 35% of the vote.  Also the Nationalist will probably clean up in Scotland and deprive Labour of a lot of seats there and perhaps even hold the balance of power. So it could be a right mess after the next election.  Labour are quite capable of messing up big time. The establishment are playing a dangerous game...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:42:14 PM EST
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