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Did Schäuble win? | 258 comments (258 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Did Schäuble win? (4.00 / 10)
The whole problem is precisely nationalistic blabbing. The whole fucking problem is right-wing nationalist governments putting their short-term electoral interests, expressed in terms of national self-interest ahead of EU interests or even medium term national interest.

"They started it" isn't a good excuse, but the moralistic bleating from the German government about other peoples' debts does rather invite it.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 06:21:14 AM EST
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Re: Did Schäuble win? (none / 0)
That isn't an argument.

And doesn't justify idiotic stunts

by IM on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 12:11:45 PM EST
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No, it's politics. The German government's political stance here sucks. Tit-for-tat ensues. Shocking, isn't it?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 12:39:20 PM EST
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Idiotic, even as pure politics. As a policy - well if you want to tear down everything build in europe since the early fifties...
by IM on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:01:00 PM EST
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Re: Did Schäuble win? (4.00 / 5)
There are a good many of us who feel that whatever has been built in Europe since the '50s is getting torn down anyway. And that German policy bears a heavy responsibility for that sad state of affairs.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:07:10 PM EST
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Two wrongs don't make a right.

Or do you want to heighten the contradictions?

by IM on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:10:40 PM EST
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What do you want exactly? Apart from turning a reasonable discussion that might even be enlightening into an IM I-can-be-even-more-kneejerk-than-you-think show?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:17:44 PM EST
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I think my original point was quite clear: It is not a good or would not be a good idea to raise again the issue of the greek war time loan. You won't achieve anything and it is principally not a good idea to open issues from world war two and upset the post war order. europs needed log enough to construct one.

What is so complicated about that position?  

"Apart from turning a reasonable discussion that might even be "

That is your standard of a reasonable discussion? Full of nationalism and bad history and accusations of bad faith?

I haven't said anything about Greece entering the euro with false numbers (irrelevant) or greek defaults (irrelevant) or the Morgenthau plan (irrelevant).

If we could for once discuss what my acrtual point was. that would be helpful.

by IM on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:28:24 PM EST
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If you could slow down and understand others' positions, and stop charging around shooting from the hip with supposed rebuttals that are simply insults to other peoples' intelligence, that would be more than helpful.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:35:16 PM EST
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I do understand the position of others , I just think they are (partially) wrong.

 "that are simply insults to other peoples' intelligence,"

And o so clever movie quotes aren't much of an argument.

by IM on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:38:45 PM EST
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[ET Moderation Technology™]

I'm not going through this thread amassing quotes from you that are insults to other users' attempts to discuss reasonably. They are all there for everyone to see.

Please go and read ETiquette.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2015 at 01:41:57 PM EST
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Did Schäuble win? | 258 comments (258 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
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