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Thats what happens if you have a single point that you need to capture. Imposing that agenda on a pan-European scale would have been next to impossible if the power rested on individual nation states. Capture becomes much easier this way.

Now, sometimes capture goes the right way (again some American examples come to mind). But to be quite frank, the whole notion of capture seems profoundly anti-democratic in any case.

by cagatacos on Mon Feb 9th, 2015 at 12:04:24 PM EST
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Imposing that agenda on a pan-European scale would have been next to impossible if the power rested on individual nation states.

This is, of course, not true. The claims of parochial provincialism notwithstanding.

If you want a model for Europe without the EU, look at the relationship between the EU and Norway, then replace the EU by the US, and Norway by the envisioned gaggle of pint-sized jokes pretending to be sovereign states.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Feb 9th, 2015 at 03:18:05 PM EST
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And IMHO even that is too optimistic. If the nationalistic escapades within the EU framework are any indication, a Europe without EU means war, with 100% certainty: there is nothing to stop escalations.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Feb 9th, 2015 at 04:43:36 PM EST
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Imposing that agenda on a pan-European scale would have been next to impossible

Beg your pardon!? Non-EU Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia: the neo-liberal agenda was imposed almost everywhere quite successfully, and in not just a few instances more radically than anywhere even in the post-Lehman EU. Some hints at how it works: IMF, shock therapy, race to the bottom.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Feb 9th, 2015 at 04:47:48 PM EST
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