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more noise.

It is nice to see that the only part of my post you all get excited over is the part where I found previous Greek governments lacking zeal in pressing the matter. (Would you really say "press" for a performance like that und normal circs?)

No disagreement about the main point then. Good.

And the proposal is getting more support: http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2015-03/griechenland-reparation-jugendwerk

by Katrin on Tue Mar 17th, 2015 at 03:20:48 PM EST
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more noise.

Compared to what? Isn't your standard that you, personally, haven't heard of these Greek government protests via German media before (while Upstate NY's equally subjective standard is that she kept reading of those in Greek media)?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Mar 17th, 2015 at 03:28:10 PM EST
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" haven't heard of these Greek government protests via German media before"

While you did read daily about these claims prior to 2008?

Are you kidding me?

by IM on Tue Mar 17th, 2015 at 03:37:23 PM EST
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While you did read daily about these claims prior to 2008?

Where have you read me make such a claim? It would really do good for the debate if you wouldn't make up your own fantasy version of other people's opinions.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Mar 17th, 2015 at 03:51:37 PM EST
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If you haven't made this claim, what is your point? That the greek government seriously pursued this claim but nobody ever noticed it?

I didn't notice, you didn't notice - how silent was the greek campaign?

The best kept secret in international politics, it seems.

by IM on Tue Mar 17th, 2015 at 03:56:03 PM EST
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The point is that you rfuse to recognise your subjectiveness. If you haven't noticed it, it doesn't mean that nobody noticed it. Upstate NY noticed it, so did the German historian in the Red-Green era I quoted above.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Mar 17th, 2015 at 06:53:07 PM EST
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" If you haven't noticed it, it doesn't mean that nobody noticed it."

So all you have is a historian who specializes in german-greek after war relations. Hardly the general public, in any country.  So yes, nobody has brought this up publicly in decades. And nobody, really nobody make this claims besides Fleischer. Quite touching that he wants to prove his greek Soul or whatever. But if read the interview again, even he says that nobody talked about the second world war in Greece in decades.  

by IM on Tue Mar 17th, 2015 at 07:09:58 PM EST
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Katrin, I thought you might be interested in this:

http://www.macropolis.gr/?i=portal.en.the-agora.2371&itemId=2371

by Upstate NY on Fri Mar 20th, 2015 at 11:36:56 AM EST
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Even if I agreed now, for argument's sake, that there had always been "noise" on the Greek side, the rest of my post would still stand.
by Katrin on Fri Mar 20th, 2015 at 02:55:56 PM EST
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