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Nonsense. Russia attacked. No one else.
by IM on Thu May 7th, 2015 at 08:00:43 AM EST
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There is no refugee crisis in Crimea though?
by generic on Thu May 7th, 2015 at 09:05:10 AM EST
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You mean aside from the tartars driven out?
by IM on Thu May 7th, 2015 at 10:20:00 AM EST
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Is this happening actually? I've seen conflicting reports.
by generic on Thu May 7th, 2015 at 03:34:42 PM EST
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The point I wanted to make is that the only war that definitely wouldn't have happened without Russian involvement is the annexation of Crimea. The broader civil war probably would have started anyway, except of course that the separatists would most likely have lost by now.
And I'm not disputing that the Tatar minority now faces considerable repression, just that I haven't heard anything credible about mass expulsions.
by generic on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 05:52:36 AM EST
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 just that I haven't heard anything credible about mass expulsions.

That's okay then. There aren't mass expulsions in the ukriane either, so what?

Und people like Girkin admiotted that they started the "civil war" in eastern Ukraine.

by IM on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 06:02:57 AM EST
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By 'mass expulsions' read 'population displacements'.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 06:13:37 AM EST
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Going by the BBC the total number of Tatar refugees is in the order of 8000. That's what 3-4% ? So still less of a crime against humanity than the austerity in Latvia. And far from what Vladimir did in Chechnya.
by generic on Fri May 8th, 2015 at 07:28:39 AM EST
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It is realistic that Crimea would have the Dombas-type bloody war soon (and until now), without that Russian annexation. Does that make the Russian involvement in Crimea humanitarian?
by das monde on Sat May 9th, 2015 at 12:00:39 PM EST
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