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That symbol on top is associated with things that do not represent values that are worth fighting for...
How many people in Europe know what is the Council of Europe? That symbol, for most people, represents something else...
The symbol above, via whatever method, has become a particularly nasty one. Fair or unfair, such is the case. It is starting to mean the antagonizing of democracy. I find it slightly nauseous to see it here.
Nowbody forces yot to participate here.
But if you want to replace it with a mashup of the american and chinese flag...
How many people in Europe know what is the Council of Europe?
It's worth wondering why they don't, since the Council of Europe predates the EEC and the EU by quite a bit.
Mostly, I'd say the reason is that the individual member countries have kept quiet about it. When Cameron scores nationalist-reactionary points by firing bazooka rounds at the Human Rights Act, he doesn't tell the British people about the Council of Europe and the fact that Britain was a prime mover in its foundation, hosting the treaty signing in London. And it's little better anywhere else.
This is just one reason why I don't expect individual European countries to somehow do better separately than collectively. Even though the current collective effort is visibly a failure.
When Cameron scores nationalist-reactionary points by firing bazooka rounds at the Human Rights Act, he doesn't tell the British people about the Council of Europe and the fact that Britain was a prime mover in its foundation, hosting the treaty signing in London.
On paper commendable, in reality though, not much to talk about. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
No need to create new ones, of course, we can do this ourselves. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
What "we" can do is issue ignored-in-advance reports on this that and the other thing, like Belarus' lack of democracy and transparency (as opposed, say, to any Eurogroup negotiation, say) or the report Migeru cites.
The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
That fits.
I see. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
Racist. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
Perhaps it's because you're Irish?
:) No irony intended. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
Your accusation of racism is both silly and insulting. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
Is it now OK, or not? Does it depend who does it? It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
I think we should all take a step back and reflect on the ridiculousness of the situation. A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
The usual measure of whether something is offensive is whether the putative targets are offended by it (not whether someone else takes offense on their behalf). My guess, which no doubt would require confirmation, is that German participants in this forum are annoyed and offended by redstar's frequent humourless gybes about alleged German humourlessness (leaving aside other alleged national characteristics which he has, in the past, attributed to them).
It might seem trivial, but it's a principle that I feel strongly about. It might be seen as an extended piece of performance art, rather than as representing redstar's true beliefs, but that would actually be an aggravating factor in my view, as it is easy to interpret the intent as being to sow discord between people based on their nationality.
If I were a nationalist, I might suggest that redstar's problem be sorted out by his compatriots (and I would happily delegate the job to the Irish caucus, who might be more expeditive than the French).
But I think it's a collective problem. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
I tried humour. It didn't work. So be it. A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
Not I.
I don't see any racist ad hominems. The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
Your accusation of racism is both silly and insulting.
But whatever. Just don't complain.
'Mustard gas' Churchill, the most lionised man of the 20thC.
A sometimes very witty man, but certainly no sage to subscribe to.
His ability to give uplifting oratory at a terrible time gained him much love and respect, but his core values were pompous and predatory, Empah incarnate.
Your sig, Redstar is trolling and you know it, I commend the Germans here for ignoring your provocation and answering on the merit of your often interesting arguments. 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
And irony is really not your strong suit.
Even if the rest of the Council is an fossil now.
No wonder. The Council has withered away outsidde the Court and has been seen in the east as an mntechamber to the EU-membership.
It alsoo tends to overlap with the functions of the OSCE
hat is the problem if people go around and screech that everything is fascist: They totally loose their bearings.
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