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Why on earth are reforms "unworkable"?

Efficient tax collection?

A 21st century grade well functioning public administration?

Corruption at Swedish, not Swaziland levels?
(Yes, I know. Italy. Romania.)

A well managed public service with a minimum of political patronage?

A public service size commensurate with the financial ability of Greek society?

A judical system that provides timely and workable resolution of business and administrative disputes comparably to other EMU members?

I could go on. Nothing of that is rocket science - it "just" requires good government.

by DerFriederich on Sun Jun 28th, 2015 at 09:03:57 PM EST
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Regarding tax collection, corruption, political patronage, judicial system - the difference is in local oligarchies. Syriza is much more serious (though not much able) to address the Greek oligarchy than the troika institutions.
by das monde on Sun Jun 28th, 2015 at 09:34:07 PM EST
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Efficient tax collection?
In the Greek proposal, vetoed by the IMF.

A 21st century grade well functioning public administration?
In the Greek proposal.

Corruption at Swedish, not Swaziland levels?
In the Greek proposal.

A well managed public service with a minimum of political patronage?
In the Greek proposal.

A public service size commensurate with the financial ability of Greek society?
Pure sophistry, since the "financial ability" of a society is decided by political convention: The marginal cost of printing more money is zero, so sovereign financing can never be a scarce resource. Only a political weapon wielded by those with a pathological dislike of the public sector.

A judical system that provides timely and workable resolution of business and administrative disputes comparably to other EMU members?
Already in the Greek proposal. Unless you meant to append "in favor of the businesses." In which case you can shove it where the sun won't shine.

When every substantive proposal on your list is either uncontroversial or in fact the Greek position that the Troika is rejecting, it may be a sign that you need to maybe go read the Greek proposals, instead of Stasi 2.0's lies about them in FAZ.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM EST
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LOL. Except for the red herring about the size of the public service, those are not the parts the Greek proposals differed from the troika proposals.

Unworkable reforms are ones that claim to put Greece back on the path to growth and debt sustainability, all the while depressing consumption and thereby tax income. That is, ones where expectation and reality diverges this spectacularly:

And let's not forget that these policies are also unworkable because the social destruction they bring (I bet you haven't read the FAZ link Katrin provided) is bound to trigger political results that undo them. The Syriza–ANEL government is already such a result, but if fools like Dijsselbloem get what they wanted in collapsing the government, the next one will be the Nazis.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 06:06:34 AM EST
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DerFriedrich, ignoring that Tsipras/Syriza has actually, or is actually, addressing your concerns, you seem to be missing a very huge point.

Greece has had decades of entrenched corruption from the oligarchy, including during the last five years of acquiescence to the Troika. And you seriously expect that corruption to be undone within six months of a totally new government?

You must truly be an honored Professor of Political Science, Economics, and Fantasy Role-play, and Yurp seriously needs someone of your understanding to fix this mess quickly. Please help us.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 06:30:25 AM EST
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Also, when making agreements with ND- an PASOK-led governments earlier, why haven't agreements been torn up on the basis that the same elites responsible for past corruption and mismanagement don't guarantee success for any reform?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 29th, 2015 at 06:38:37 AM EST
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