It's "Whose Economy, Stupid?" | 38 comments (38 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Would be nice if the SPD found its Corbyn, but I think the current SPD elite is (still) not as disconnected from the (remaining) party base as the Bliarite Labour elite. Thjough, if Gabriel marches further right in the next two years, it might happen.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Aug 11th, 2015 at 05:33:29 AM EST
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Bliarite. Excellent.

by rifek on Mon Aug 24th, 2015 at 11:25:57 PM EST
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epochepoque:

It's not about clumsy capitalism bashing. But it's a self deception of the Schröder-Blair generation that only ever more liberalisation will lead to a better standard of living for everybody.

Embodied in the French PS by the Hollande-Valls-Macron generation (although you'd be hard pressed to find any strong opinion in Hollande). Sadly, no Corbyn in view...

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 04:05:08 PM EST
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Is Melanchton any help?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 06:51:39 AM EST
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Mélenchon? He's pretty much blown as a leader of the left. He's a poor communicator. Too much framing things in terms of the history of the Republic (which most people don't relate to), too much time and energy wasted in picking fights with politicians and journalists, too much ego. He comes across as a member of the elite. Too late now for him to claw back the lost ground.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 11:08:46 AM EST
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Who is or could be the leader of the French Left?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 04:32:50 AM EST
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Two pols have the charisma, but are to be ruled out for different reasons. Dany Cohn-Bendit is too economic-liberal, and anyway has retired from active politics. José Bové is perceived as a sectorial (agriculture) unionist.

For reasons stated here by Bernard and myself, Mélenchon and Montebourg don't have the makings.

<scans the horizon> No one else in sight, unless I'm mistaken.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 08:19:13 AM EST
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If it's any consolation, there was nobody in sight until Corbyn popped his head up

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 02:31:04 PM EST
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They's claim that he would be unelectable. And at least it wouldn't be as ridiculous as hearing the same argument from Miliband supporters is.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 06:57:47 AM EST
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wasn't Montebourg supposed to be this?

by IM on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 01:18:32 PM EST
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Not Montebourg, nor Mélenchon: one is busy mostly outside of politics, cultivating his ego (he's always been a poseur), and the other is picking up fights with journalists and Germany at large.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Aug 30th, 2015 at 03:40:42 PM EST
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Of course the previous weekend Varoufakis was at the Fête de le Rose invited by Montebourg and met with Mélenchon.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 04:35:07 AM EST
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Varoufakis for leader of the French left!

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 05:31:18 AM EST
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He has a connection to Paris Match; that is a start.

by IM on Mon Aug 31st, 2015 at 05:36:53 AM EST
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