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This post rings well with my thoughts,
Its strange, I put down Will Huttons 'The state we're in' some 18 years ago. After 46 pages. I just thought it pointless, no ones going to vote for that. I could not forget sitting in a room in 94 full of 20 somethings urging on the tories in the 94 election and watching the tutor look ever more depressed as the evening moved on.
To me it summed up how badly the people get politics. They voted for a party that had just led them into two recessions(81/83 and 90/94) and the gave them poll tax.
So today i have finished the book, after New Labour. The books, last chapter of what should be done, and what new labour did tie up in some ways. I have also read a heck of lot of history since 97.  Taking in the last 900 years of the UK (not to mention most of Europe).
I can only hope Corbyn if he gets the chance AND holds a hand out to Nigel Farage, Green Party and Lib Dems. To ask, shall we continue with the electoral reform the Tories have stalled for 100 years. Labour Have just reaped the reward of doing nothing about this. Where they are now is what they deserve. I'd vote green by the way (right wingish old style radical liberal green), to shade my comments.
Something has to be done to improve the UK. I read all the time, and oft hear 'it was easier in my day'. But I do not see two and two put together, that those in power/establishment want:
  • an extemely powerful executive (to non UK folks, think KING like)
  • no distinct checks and balances (none)
  • specifically a weak legal check, second chamber, ability to vet things(we have a had many quango bonfires)
  • no continuity in policy (slow purposeful actions that people can plan to over 10+ years)
  • no social movement/up down social ladder.
  • huge debts(mainly hidden via PFI), but providing high ROI
  • The house lords being used as reward system.
  • centralised power, one mistake goes everywhere.
--so on

Basically, items that will if turned around provide benefits.
To me, knowing the UK today and that of the 1890's, i see the same issues. Not much change, a lot more voters, but voters who really have not paid interest in their long term interest. Hey ho, its English(sorry welsh/scots) to muddle on, make most the of it while the rain does not fall.

Thus, a break with blairite politics is at least a step in the right direction for the labour. Blair epitomises Tory establishment and what Labour did wrong.

I can only hope (haha), that the labour decide another 5 years working together is what they should do. They deserved scotland shooting them, they will deserve the electoral boundary changes the tories make, and for not helping the lib dems in the last parliament, they now have a greater share of the electoral vote and they do not have power. If they had supported the Lib dems(and destroyed them by not doing so), they would be laughing now. But the establishment group in the party won.
Corbyn in theory will bring in the labour voters who voted green. Even perhaps gain a scottish seat. I will like to see how scotland pans out. The Irish had block power in the 1870's/1880's but the tories never let them go.
enough, of me. I agree with Helens comments :)

by alexc on Fri Aug 21st, 2015 at 02:10:37 PM EST
Well, there are plenty of Lib Dems who need a place to go as St. Nick has made quite sure they have no party.
by rifek on Mon Aug 24th, 2015 at 11:39:31 PM EST
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