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According to a poll, the majority of Germans is unsatisfied with the crisis management of the federal government. 64% think that its handling of refugee policy is "quite bad" or "very bad", as a survey of Emnid for TV channel N24 says. Participants were asked Wednesday after the new measures by the coalition were presented.

Strength without Rigour - FAZ

... it referred to the lesson that Germany wants to teach Europe. That has a lot to do with feelings but little with politics. Is there force in the German strength to propel Europe forward? In what direction does Germany want to "pave the way", as Merkel said?
It goes to show how weak Germany's position is in Europe into which it maneuvered itself -with noble intent- when Denmark stopped rail traffic from Germany and closed off a highway. ... The closure ... was a warning shot not only from Copenhagen but also from Stockholm. It happened one day after the Stefan Löfven visited Merkel in Berlin. What did he say to the chancellor? "We can do it!" - ? Certainly not.
... [Her speech] included the sentence that "economic refugees" don't have a place in Germany. ... How is this immigration consistent with the assurance to regulate immigration according to the needs of the host country? How does the chancellor intend to follow through? The administration is not even capable of processing the flood of asylum requests and especially not able to reliably let consequences follow when they're denied.
... the federal government is unable to process asylum requests within three months or -like in other countries- even faster. That is urgently necessary if Europe is to have a functional asylum and immigration policy. That things can't go on like this is apparantly only believable if Winfried Kretschmann (Greens) says it. To draw consequences from that would require not only courage and strength, it would require toughness.

A few posts up we where talking about the AfD.

Alfa and the refugee crisis - Come with me to the adventure land - FAZ

The AfD demands that asylum only be requested in German embassies or refugee camps. The Alfa party founded by Bernd Lucke [former AfD chief] has fanciful solutions too.

Most fanciful of those ideas: send blue helmets to carve out safe havens in conflict zones. But of course the German army should be exempted.

_{Schengen is toast!}

by epochepoque on Thu Sep 10th, 2015 at 05:14:50 PM EST

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Regarding the 'smooth' transition of those 'highly-qualified' refugees into the local job market: here we have Andrea Nahles (federal minister of employment), an avowed leftie saying things like "The Syrian doctor is not the average case." and that not even ten percent can be directly hired. At best there is going to be a medium term transition, at worst, well I don't want to think too much about it since the flood is not receding.

_{Schengen is toast!}

by epochepoque on Thu Sep 10th, 2015 at 05:28:38 PM EST
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What's wrong with a medium-term transition? At a minimum, even the skilled have to learn German. And Nahles is rather pragmatic about the re-training.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Fri Sep 11th, 2015 at 05:01:18 PM EST
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The longer you're unemployed the higher the probability that it stays that way. The outcome after years of whatever programs they throw you into: a less than solidly middle class experience. Retraining is very expensive and it didn't work so well after reunification for all those East Germans who at least spoke the language.

Nahles says pilot projects for fast integration into the labour market have failed for the vast majority. She proactively said that unemployment will be higher next year. This is all starting out rather well...

_{Schengen is toast!}

by epochepoque on Fri Sep 11th, 2015 at 05:54:19 PM EST
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Retraining is very expensive and it didn't work so well after reunification for all those East Germans who at least spoke the language.

The main East German problem was lack of jobs, not lack of skills. And difficulties in re-training is a tendency of demographics under-represented among refugees, especially the current Syrian ones (older workers, the least skilled workers, alcoholics).

Nahles says pilot projects for fast integration into the labour market have failed for the vast majority.

Where did she say that? Not in the linked article.

She proactively said that unemployment will be higher next year.

And she said that won't be the result of failed labour market policies but the sign that there is an on-going task [of re-training].

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sat Sep 12th, 2015 at 01:34:16 PM EST
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right-wingers whine, sun rises in the east.

by IM on Fri Sep 11th, 2015 at 09:42:44 AM EST
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Hippies party, sun sets in the west.

_{Schengen is toast!}

by epochepoque on Fri Sep 11th, 2015 at 05:55:03 PM EST
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hippies? are you an time traveling reactionary from 1967?

by IM on Sun Sep 13th, 2015 at 09:31:11 AM EST
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