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Democrats go into elections knowing several things:

  1. Approximately 35% of voters are dyed-in-the-wool racists and will always vote Republican

  2. The media is owned by corporate entities and therefore will never really allow someone like Sanders to have his message come across in the media, and it will also undercut politicians like Clinton who get a head of steam.

  3. We have wildly divergent voting processes locally, many of which allow for voters to be caged or tossed off the rolls, especially in areas of high poverty. Fewer machines for voting in poor areas also creates a disincentive to vote.

Given this, Democrats have to plan accordingly:

  1. GOTV areas in areas under voting attack (the Clinton campaign didn't do this in Michigan)

  2. Tailor media messages to attract the 20% of swing voters who may/may not vote Republican. Clinton had a natural drawing card with such voters--the Detroit Auto Bailout. Instead, she fumbled when Trump talked trade during debates.

  3. Get down and dirty at the local level of battleground states--lawsuits, court challenges to voting rights, judicial appointments etc.

I don't buy this argument about identity politics. It just seems to obscure the real pressure points of the election. Those who don't like political correctness are among the 35% who are dyed-in-the-wool racists and would never vote for Democrats anyway. You don't hear much about identity politics anyway until a GOP candidate starts dog whistling and making racist comments in order to charge up that base. Bemoaning political correctness is just bemoaning when people call you on your racist bullshit.

One thing that isn't as evident in Western Europe is the role of religions in elections. In the USA, we now have Christian Dominionists who have infiltrated gov't and who don't seem to care a whit about the traditional system of American democracy, checks and balances. These people are essentially fascist, and there is strong reason to suspect that at their core, the dominant ideology is racial, and not religious at all. Religion is a cover. The KKK was a hard core Christian group.

by Upstate NY on Sat Dec 24th, 2016 at 04:20:37 PM EST
My point was that by dismissing so much of the white vote the Clinton team failed to appeal/didn't even try to appeal to a good number of white voters they could well have had vote for them. A campaign needs to craft a message that can appeal to all, but it does not have to send the same message to everyone all the time. But the various messages do need to be mutually non-contradictory.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Dec 24th, 2016 at 05:03:21 PM EST
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It's true that Europe doesn't have nearly as bad a fundie infestation as the US (except maybe in Poland, where there are some truly scary cults pretending to be political parties). But many of the European ugly parties are explicitly sectarian, and most of the overt chauvinism is couched in sectarian rather than ethnic terms.

They haven't managed to penetrate the deep state to anywhere near the extent they have in the US, but I suspect that it is less due to the absence of Baptist bigots and more due to a deeper cultural suspicion of public displays of piety among the non-sectarian majority. In the US you have the problem that your culture gives great latitude to public displays of piety, and pointing out that the preacher man is by any reasonable standard a frothing lunatic is not done. This cultural taboo is less pronounced in Europe, so the crazy cultists stick out more and can be purged more easily.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Dec 25th, 2016 at 08:50:16 AM EST
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