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Why is it that public benefits like housing or old age pensions which could be afforded in much less prosperous times are suddenly becoming unaffordable now?

For every saver, there has to be a borrower. But with Governments and private citizens in peripheral countries already under water with debt, where are the additional borrowers to come from to provide an income for additional savings?

You can't at the same time flay the Greeks for borrowing both too much and too little. And if their economy crashes, you may lose not only your interest income but your savings as well.

Deutsche Bank is more or less bust, thanks to it's ill advised speculation on derivatives, trying to achieve a return on savings that was simply not sustainable.

There will be no return to high interest rates soon, and anyone who tries to tell you different is lying. In fact you could be lucky not to lose some of your savings as well, without a cast iron European wide savings insurance scheme.

And who will fund that?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Apr 26th, 2016 at 12:18:46 PM EST
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Frank Schnittger:
You can't at the same time flay the Greeks for borrowing both too much and too little.

I am not so sure of that. We are longing for the good old times when we could invest in Bundesschatzbriefe and they carried good interest while lauding the debt brake and the black zero, too. We are beyond logic, I think. If we weren't, it would necessarily be time for something drastic, and we are not prepared for that.

by Katrin on Tue Apr 26th, 2016 at 01:16:16 PM EST
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You just need to lend your hard earned money to nice, hard working people who will pay it back to you with good interest, unlike these feckless Greeks.

That no such people do actually exist is of no importance for politicians. Deutsche Bank, on the other hand, has to deal with that reality. The hard way.

by Bernard on Tue Apr 26th, 2016 at 04:24:49 PM EST
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Why is it that public benefits like housing or old age pensions which could be afforded in much less prosperous times are suddenly becoming unaffordable now?

How else is the Ueberklass supposed to get the more it so richly deserves without taking it from the rest of us?

by rifek on Tue Apr 26th, 2016 at 07:36:19 PM EST
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Maybe they should call it 'Qualitative Squeezing' instead?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Apr 27th, 2016 at 02:21:05 AM EST
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"Qualitative Fingernail Extraction"?
by rifek on Wed Apr 27th, 2016 at 03:33:14 PM EST
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But the ECB is certainly not asking Germany to provide the funds for QE! NO! They are just printing the money. If Germany dares to object the ECB can always say: "well, then, please tell the general public that you are preventing us from defending the payment system." As others here have so often noted defending the payment system is the most fundamental job of a central bank. After all, Euros are the liability of the ECB and only the ECB can print Euros - err - effectively.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:10:06 PM EST
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